With a factory action and barrel? Never have I ever seen a remington 700 or a Savage shoot that badly. In fact, I've never owned a savage or a remington that wouldn't shoot near 1moa out of the box. The worst rifle I've ever owned was a Weather Vanguard 308. Bought it used with Nikon glass - - - it shot around 4moa. Ended up being the scope base causing the issues. Fixed it, gun shot .5moa with handloads.