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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow" data-source="post: 1381449" data-attributes="member: 7123"><p>Yes, it's "deer <strong>gun</strong>" season - rifles (including MLs and rifled "shotguns"), smoothbore guns (shotguns with slugs), and handguns are all allowed - even a handgun in .357 Sig is allowed. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Interesting word there, "using". I haven't USED a damned thing yet, because there's no $#^%^#@%@#$% deer. Now I *have* been CARRYING some dead weight along with me on my many many (many) squirrel, turkey, and flora-watching adventures, every time... from a PSE Tac-10 to a Rossi .45 ML, to the aforementioned Weatherby Mark V Ultra Lightweight, in .280 Rem. Maybe if I carried no weapon, the deer would come out during daylight.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Real nice buck there, imhntn - but a .270 ain't a rifle - what rifle?!? <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>IMO, the answer is no as to caliber, yes as to bullet. A 175-180 would be for maximum penetration at the expense of expansion & short-range trajectory, such as trying to go after a brown bear or bigger with a 7mm round. <em><strong>OR</strong></em>, for the extremely rare situation of really long (extreme) range hunting - from a bench with a heavy rig in something like STW, or RUM, across canyons, etc., where the BC eventually overtakes MV in importance (retained velocity / retained energy).</p><p></p><p>For thin-skinned game like a deer, you don't need that kind of massive penetration - so why not trade it off to get more expansion/explosiveness. along with *adequate* penetration? A 140 is what I would (and do) use in a 7mm for deer. A 130 would be great too. A 150 would not be a bad choice either. But 160 and up starts slowing you down to give you penetration you don't need - once the bullet has exited the far side, you don't need any more penetration. In addition to expansion/explosiveness, you also get a flatter trajectory with a lighter faster bullet for the first 300 or so yards (which includes all reasonable hunting ranges anyway). So a 139/140 is about the ideal for a whitetail, when you consider all the tradeoffs - IMO. Soft point or ballistic tip of course.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow, post: 1381449, member: 7123"] Yes, it's "deer [B]gun[/B]" season - rifles (including MLs and rifled "shotguns"), smoothbore guns (shotguns with slugs), and handguns are all allowed - even a handgun in .357 Sig is allowed. Interesting word there, "using". I haven't USED a damned thing yet, because there's no $#^%^#@%@#$% deer. Now I *have* been CARRYING some dead weight along with me on my many many (many) squirrel, turkey, and flora-watching adventures, every time... from a PSE Tac-10 to a Rossi .45 ML, to the aforementioned Weatherby Mark V Ultra Lightweight, in .280 Rem. Maybe if I carried no weapon, the deer would come out during daylight. Real nice buck there, imhntn - but a .270 ain't a rifle - what rifle?!? :) IMO, the answer is no as to caliber, yes as to bullet. A 175-180 would be for maximum penetration at the expense of expansion & short-range trajectory, such as trying to go after a brown bear or bigger with a 7mm round. [I][B]OR[/B][/I], for the extremely rare situation of really long (extreme) range hunting - from a bench with a heavy rig in something like STW, or RUM, across canyons, etc., where the BC eventually overtakes MV in importance (retained velocity / retained energy). For thin-skinned game like a deer, you don't need that kind of massive penetration - so why not trade it off to get more expansion/explosiveness. along with *adequate* penetration? A 140 is what I would (and do) use in a 7mm for deer. A 130 would be great too. A 150 would not be a bad choice either. But 160 and up starts slowing you down to give you penetration you don't need - once the bullet has exited the far side, you don't need any more penetration. In addition to expansion/explosiveness, you also get a flatter trajectory with a lighter faster bullet for the first 300 or so yards (which includes all reasonable hunting ranges anyway). So a 139/140 is about the ideal for a whitetail, when you consider all the tradeoffs - IMO. Soft point or ballistic tip of course. [/QUOTE]
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