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<blockquote data-quote="Gideon" data-source="post: 3789279" data-attributes="member: 7898"><p>You are absolutely 100% correct. Free men (that is, people who have developed self control, "self-governing" as the Founders would say) do not need to be told what to do. They do not need to be monitored.</p><p>The quote doesn't make sense, though, because the honest and moral man comes from somewhere.</p><p>The moral and virtuous people who are capable of living without laws don't spring up from the ground, they're the result of hundreds of years of traditions enforced by bayonet. The Founders went out and stabbed the people who were preventing them from living free, compare this to most of our compatriots who won't even turn the TV off even as they watch it destroy their family.</p><p></p><p>The issue is that modern man has forgotten how to generate these characteristics in people. We now allow the incentives to remain in place to discourage such men from coming into being. As long as we allow our enemies to set the incentive structure in society the number of immoral and dishonest men will continue to grow.</p><p></p><p>Stalin put criminals in jail? Guess we better get rid of jails then, I ain't no COMMIE!</p><p>Hitler ensured that his citizen's right to a speedy trial was upheld? Dang, I take it all back then. Send the children back to ineffective schools and release the schizophrenics and heroin addicts to wander the neighborhoods.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gideon, post: 3789279, member: 7898"] You are absolutely 100% correct. Free men (that is, people who have developed self control, "self-governing" as the Founders would say) do not need to be told what to do. They do not need to be monitored. The quote doesn't make sense, though, because the honest and moral man comes from somewhere. The moral and virtuous people who are capable of living without laws don't spring up from the ground, they're the result of hundreds of years of traditions enforced by bayonet. The Founders went out and stabbed the people who were preventing them from living free, compare this to most of our compatriots who won't even turn the TV off even as they watch it destroy their family. The issue is that modern man has forgotten how to generate these characteristics in people. We now allow the incentives to remain in place to discourage such men from coming into being. As long as we allow our enemies to set the incentive structure in society the number of immoral and dishonest men will continue to grow. Stalin put criminals in jail? Guess we better get rid of jails then, I ain't no COMMIE! Hitler ensured that his citizen's right to a speedy trial was upheld? Dang, I take it all back then. Send the children back to ineffective schools and release the schizophrenics and heroin addicts to wander the neighborhoods. [/QUOTE]
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