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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 3846032" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>If you're losing a PR war from within, how can you claim they don't drive the education train in Oklahoma? If conservative educators hold more power and clout, why are you losing the fight? <img src="/images/smilies/anyone.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":anyone:" title="Anyone :anyone:" data-shortname=":anyone:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>I believe pretty much all the metro schools and more than a few of the OKC/Tulsa burbs are run by liberals. When you compare the percentage of students that covers, it isn't insignificant. I also believe they are a significant contributor to our out of whack ratios, but with 537 school districts in just 77 counties, the rural districts aren't without fault. I do think we need to spend more per student, but money isn't everything. Let's delve into some stats:</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Louisiana" target="_blank"><img src="https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/f/fe/Flag_of_Louisiana.png/150px-Flag_of_Louisiana.png" alt="Flag of Louisiana.png" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Education facts</strong></td></tr><tr><td><strong>State superintendent:</strong><br /> <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Cade_Brumley" target="_blank">Cade Brumley</a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of students:</strong><br /> 710,903</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of teachers:</strong><br /> 46,493</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Teacher/pupil ratio:</strong><br /> 1:15</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of school districts:</strong><br /> 80</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of schools:</strong><br /> 1,407</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Graduation rate:</strong><br /> 73.5%</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Per-pupil spending:</strong><br /> $10,490</td></tr></table><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Arkansas" target="_blank"><img src="https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/9/92/Flag_of_Arkansas.png/150px-Flag_of_Arkansas.png" alt="Flag of Arkansas.png" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Education facts</strong></td></tr><tr><td><strong>State superintendent:</strong><br /> <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Johnny_Key" target="_blank">Johnny Key</a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of students:</strong><br /> 486,157</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of teachers:</strong><br /> 34,131</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Teacher/pupil ratio:</strong><br /> 1:14</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of school districts:</strong><br /> 269</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of schools:</strong><br /> 1,102</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Graduation rate:</strong><br /> 84.9%</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Per-pupil spending:</strong><br /> $9,394</td></tr></table><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Missouri" target="_blank"><img src="https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/7/75/Flag_of_Missouri.png/150px-Flag_of_Missouri.png" alt="Flag of Missouri.png" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Education facts</strong></td></tr><tr><td><strong>State superintendent:</strong><br /> <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Margie_Vandeven" target="_blank">Margie Vandeven</a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of students:</strong><br /> 917,900</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of teachers:</strong><br /> 66,248</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Teacher/pupil ratio:</strong><br /> 1:14</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of school districts:</strong><br /> 226</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of schools:</strong><br /> 2,406</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Graduation rate:</strong><br /> 85.7%</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Per-pupil spending:</strong><br /> $9,597</td></tr></table><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Kansas" target="_blank"><img src="https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/b/ba/Flag_of_Kansas.png/150px-Flag_of_Kansas.png" alt="Flag of Kansas.png" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Education facts</strong></td></tr><tr><td><strong>State superintendent:</strong><br /> <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Randy_Watson" target="_blank">Randy Watson</a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of students:</strong><br /> 489,043</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of teachers:</strong><br /> 41,243</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Teacher/pupil ratio:</strong><br /> 1:12</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of school districts:</strong><br /> 309</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of schools:</strong><br /> 1,351</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Graduation rate:</strong><br /> 85.7%</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Per-pupil spending:</strong><br /> $9,828</td></tr></table><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Texas" target="_blank"><img src="https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/7/7a/Flag_of_Texas.png/150px-Flag_of_Texas.png" alt="Flag of Texas.png" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Education facts</strong></td></tr><tr><td><strong>State superintendent:</strong><br /> <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Mike_Morath" target="_blank">Mike Morath</a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of students:</strong><br /> 5,077,659</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of teachers:</strong><br /> 327,357</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Teacher/pupil ratio:</strong><br /> 1:16</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of school districts:</strong><br /> 1,035</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of schools:</strong><br /> 8,731</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Graduation rate:</strong><br /> 88%</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Per-pupil spending:</strong><br /> $8,299</td></tr></table><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/New_Mexico" target="_blank"><img src="https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/3/3c/Flag_of_New_Mexico.png/150px-Flag_of_New_Mexico.png" alt="Flag of New Mexico.png" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Education facts</strong></td></tr><tr><td><strong>State superintendent:</strong><br /> <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Kurt_Steinhaus" target="_blank">Kurt Steinhaus</a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of students:</strong><br /> 338,220</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of teachers:</strong><br /> 22,201</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Teacher/pupil ratio:</strong><br /> 1:15</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of school districts:</strong><br /> 89</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of schools:</strong><br /> 877</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Graduation rate:</strong><br /> 70.3%</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Per-pupil spending:</strong><br /> $9,012</td></tr></table><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Colorado" target="_blank"><img src="https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/5/5b/Flag_of_Colorado.png/150px-Flag_of_Colorado.png" alt="Flag of Colorado.png" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Education facts</strong></td></tr><tr><td><strong>State superintendent:</strong><br /> <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Katy_Anthes" target="_blank">Katy Anthes</a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of students:</strong><br /> 863,561</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of teachers:</strong><br /> 48,922</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Teacher/pupil ratio:</strong><br /> 1:18</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of school districts:</strong><br /> 181</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of schools:</strong><br /> 1,825</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Graduation rate:</strong><br /> 76.9%</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Per-pupil spending:</strong><br /> $8,647</td></tr></table><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Oklahoma" target="_blank"><img src="https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/f/f8/Flag_of_Oklahoma.png/150px-Flag_of_Oklahoma.png" alt="Flag of Oklahoma.png" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Education facts</strong></td></tr><tr><td><strong>State superintendent:</strong><br /> <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Joy_Hofmeister" target="_blank">Joy Hofmeister</a></td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of students:</strong><br /> 673,483</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of teachers:</strong><br /> 41,775</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Teacher/pupil ratio:</strong><br /> 1:16</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of school districts:</strong><br /> 537</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Number of schools:</strong><br /> 1,784</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Graduation rate:</strong><br /> 84.8%</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Per-pupil spending:</strong><br /> $7,672</td></tr></table><p></p><p>So out of 8 states in the region, we rank last in spending per student across a $2,818 spread. Yet our graduation rate ranks in the middle at 5th, and within 0.1% of 4th place. We only spend $627 less per student than first ranked Texas, which has a 3.3% higher graduation rate. Oddly enough, Louisiana ranks 1st in spending per student, but next to last in graduation rate.</p><p></p><p>Our teacher/pupil ratio ties for 6th place with Texas at 1:16, which again has the highest graduation rate on the list. Yet Kansas ranked 1st with a 1:12 student ratio, but their graduation rate is only 0.9% better than ours and 2.3% worse than Texas.</p><p></p><p>So neither spending nor teacher student ratios guarantee success (all other things being equal perhaps). What does stand out as different? Well the one thing that Oklahoma stands out on is the number of students per district. Oklahoma ranks first (or last depending on how you view it) at 1,254 students per district. The average is 3,884 students per district.</p><p></p><p>One thing we haven't discussed yet is teacher salary. We've all heard that Oklahoma can't compete in the region, especially against Texas. OK...</p><p></p><p>Average Teacher Salary Per State:</p><p></p><p>CO - $54,935 105.3 (34)</p><p>TX - $54,121 92.1 (15)</p><p><strong>OK - $52,397 87.9 (3)</strong></p><p>KS - 51,082 86.5 (2)</p><p>LA - $50,288 93.0 (16)</p><p>MO - $50,019 89.8 (7)</p><p>AR - $49,348 90.9 (7)</p><p>NM - 47,826 91.0 (12)</p><p>Average - $51,252 92.06 (14.8)</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/teacher-pay-by-state[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Just so we're comparing apples to apples, the numbers to the right of each salary is the cost of living index and ranking of each state.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/cost-of-living-index-by-state[/URL]</p><p></p><p>So I think we can all agree that teacher pay in Oklahoma shouldn't be an issue, right? At least not anymore?</p><p></p><p>So are teachers in Oklahoma really that unhappy? Or just the liberal ones? Well the same source as above has that ranking by state too. It's not entirely driven by salary either. So here's where we rank:</p><p></p><p>NM - 2</p><p>LA - 13</p><p>KS - 17</p><p>OK - 20</p><p>MO - 31</p><p>AR - 34</p><p>CO - 39</p><p>TX - 40</p><p>Average - 24.5</p><p></p><p>So all this wailing and gnashing of teeth about the state of education on Oklahoma? The Lady doth protest too much, methinks. If you want better public education in Oklahoma, I'd say put some skin in the game and offer to consolidate districts in exchange for more spending per student, And perhaps public education would get more community support if they spent less time complaining about Oklahoma. Maybe all those conservative teachers and administrators, should encourage the most liberal among their ranks to find greener pastures beyond our state lines? <img src="/images/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 3846032, member: 1132"] If you're losing a PR war from within, how can you claim they don't drive the education train in Oklahoma? If conservative educators hold more power and clout, why are you losing the fight? :anyone: I believe pretty much all the metro schools and more than a few of the OKC/Tulsa burbs are run by liberals. When you compare the percentage of students that covers, it isn't insignificant. I also believe they are a significant contributor to our out of whack ratios, but with 537 school districts in just 77 counties, the rural districts aren't without fault. I do think we need to spend more per student, but money isn't everything. Let's delve into some stats: [TABLE] [TR] [TD][URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Louisiana'][IMG alt="Flag of Louisiana.png"]https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/f/fe/Flag_of_Louisiana.png/150px-Flag_of_Louisiana.png[/IMG][/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Education facts[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]State superintendent:[/B] [URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Cade_Brumley']Cade Brumley[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of students:[/B] 710,903[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of teachers:[/B] 46,493[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Teacher/pupil ratio:[/B] 1:15[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of school districts:[/B] 80[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of schools:[/B] 1,407[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Graduation rate:[/B] 73.5%[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Per-pupil spending:[/B] $10,490[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD][URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Arkansas'][IMG alt="Flag of Arkansas.png"]https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/9/92/Flag_of_Arkansas.png/150px-Flag_of_Arkansas.png[/IMG][/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Education facts[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]State superintendent:[/B] [URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Johnny_Key']Johnny Key[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of students:[/B] 486,157[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of teachers:[/B] 34,131[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Teacher/pupil ratio:[/B] 1:14[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of school districts:[/B] 269[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of schools:[/B] 1,102[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Graduation rate:[/B] 84.9%[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Per-pupil spending:[/B] $9,394[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD][URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Missouri'][IMG alt="Flag of Missouri.png"]https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/7/75/Flag_of_Missouri.png/150px-Flag_of_Missouri.png[/IMG][/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Education facts[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]State superintendent:[/B] [URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Margie_Vandeven']Margie Vandeven[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of students:[/B] 917,900[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of teachers:[/B] 66,248[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Teacher/pupil ratio:[/B] 1:14[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of school districts:[/B] 226[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of schools:[/B] 2,406[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Graduation rate:[/B] 85.7%[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Per-pupil spending:[/B] $9,597[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD][URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Kansas'][IMG alt="Flag of Kansas.png"]https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/b/ba/Flag_of_Kansas.png/150px-Flag_of_Kansas.png[/IMG][/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Education facts[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]State superintendent:[/B] [URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Randy_Watson']Randy Watson[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of students:[/B] 489,043[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of teachers:[/B] 41,243[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Teacher/pupil ratio:[/B] 1:12[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of school districts:[/B] 309[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of schools:[/B] 1,351[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Graduation rate:[/B] 85.7%[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Per-pupil spending:[/B] $9,828[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD][URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Texas'][IMG alt="Flag of Texas.png"]https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/7/7a/Flag_of_Texas.png/150px-Flag_of_Texas.png[/IMG][/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Education facts[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]State superintendent:[/B] [URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Mike_Morath']Mike Morath[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of students:[/B] 5,077,659[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of teachers:[/B] 327,357[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Teacher/pupil ratio:[/B] 1:16[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of school districts:[/B] 1,035[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of schools:[/B] 8,731[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Graduation rate:[/B] 88%[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Per-pupil spending:[/B] $8,299[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD][URL='https://ballotpedia.org/New_Mexico'][IMG alt="Flag of New Mexico.png"]https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/3/3c/Flag_of_New_Mexico.png/150px-Flag_of_New_Mexico.png[/IMG][/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Education facts[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]State superintendent:[/B] [URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Kurt_Steinhaus']Kurt Steinhaus[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of students:[/B] 338,220[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of teachers:[/B] 22,201[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Teacher/pupil ratio:[/B] 1:15[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of school districts:[/B] 89[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of schools:[/B] 877[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Graduation rate:[/B] 70.3%[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Per-pupil spending:[/B] $9,012[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD][URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Colorado'][IMG alt="Flag of Colorado.png"]https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/5/5b/Flag_of_Colorado.png/150px-Flag_of_Colorado.png[/IMG][/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Education facts[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]State superintendent:[/B] [URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Katy_Anthes']Katy Anthes[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of students:[/B] 863,561[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of teachers:[/B] 48,922[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Teacher/pupil ratio:[/B] 1:18[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of school districts:[/B] 181[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of schools:[/B] 1,825[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Graduation rate:[/B] 76.9%[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Per-pupil spending:[/B] $8,647[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD][URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Oklahoma'][IMG alt="Flag of Oklahoma.png"]https://ballotpedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumb/f/f8/Flag_of_Oklahoma.png/150px-Flag_of_Oklahoma.png[/IMG][/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Education facts[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]State superintendent:[/B] [URL='https://ballotpedia.org/Joy_Hofmeister']Joy Hofmeister[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of students:[/B] 673,483[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of teachers:[/B] 41,775[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Teacher/pupil ratio:[/B] 1:16[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of school districts:[/B] 537[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Number of schools:[/B] 1,784[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Graduation rate:[/B] 84.8%[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Per-pupil spending:[/B] $7,672[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] So out of 8 states in the region, we rank last in spending per student across a $2,818 spread. Yet our graduation rate ranks in the middle at 5th, and within 0.1% of 4th place. We only spend $627 less per student than first ranked Texas, which has a 3.3% higher graduation rate. Oddly enough, Louisiana ranks 1st in spending per student, but next to last in graduation rate. Our teacher/pupil ratio ties for 6th place with Texas at 1:16, which again has the highest graduation rate on the list. Yet Kansas ranked 1st with a 1:12 student ratio, but their graduation rate is only 0.9% better than ours and 2.3% worse than Texas. So neither spending nor teacher student ratios guarantee success (all other things being equal perhaps). What does stand out as different? Well the one thing that Oklahoma stands out on is the number of students per district. Oklahoma ranks first (or last depending on how you view it) at 1,254 students per district. The average is 3,884 students per district. One thing we haven't discussed yet is teacher salary. We've all heard that Oklahoma can't compete in the region, especially against Texas. OK... Average Teacher Salary Per State: CO - $54,935 105.3 (34) TX - $54,121 92.1 (15) [B]OK - $52,397 87.9 (3)[/B] KS - 51,082 86.5 (2) LA - $50,288 93.0 (16) MO - $50,019 89.8 (7) AR - $49,348 90.9 (7) NM - 47,826 91.0 (12) Average - $51,252 92.06 (14.8) [URL unfurl="true"]https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/teacher-pay-by-state[/URL] Just so we're comparing apples to apples, the numbers to the right of each salary is the cost of living index and ranking of each state. [URL unfurl="true"]https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/cost-of-living-index-by-state[/URL] So I think we can all agree that teacher pay in Oklahoma shouldn't be an issue, right? At least not anymore? So are teachers in Oklahoma really that unhappy? Or just the liberal ones? Well the same source as above has that ranking by state too. It's not entirely driven by salary either. So here's where we rank: NM - 2 LA - 13 KS - 17 OK - 20 MO - 31 AR - 34 CO - 39 TX - 40 Average - 24.5 So all this wailing and gnashing of teeth about the state of education on Oklahoma? The Lady doth protest too much, methinks. If you want better public education in Oklahoma, I'd say put some skin in the game and offer to consolidate districts in exchange for more spending per student, And perhaps public education would get more community support if they spent less time complaining about Oklahoma. Maybe all those conservative teachers and administrators, should encourage the most liberal among their ranks to find greener pastures beyond our state lines? ;) [/QUOTE]
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