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<blockquote data-quote="vdub" data-source="post: 1708992" data-attributes="member: 6845"><p>If you will read what I posted to abajaj11 and the bold part above you copied from the link I posted, that is what I was basing the "his intentions" part of my post on. I was not saying that was what the bill was actually doing or that is what I necessarily believed the bill was doing. You can see from previous posts, I found two ways to read the changes in the bills. I was merely stating that bill as Senator Ellis supposedly intended is not getting rid of reciprocity with other states but strictly make it illegal for residents of Oklahoma to carry CHL's issued by a state other than Oklahoma. Is that what he really intended and is just changing his story now that people caught on? Who knows. I don't personally know the Senator but with the nature of gun rights in Oklahoma being behind other states, I would not give him the benefit of the doubt. </p><p></p><p>I have not heard back from the Senator as I am sure he might have been swamped with emails over this bill. I will update when he responds with what he says. In its current form, the bill needs to be scrapped and ORA needs to be kicked in the mouth for trying to help pass such legislation. I would love to hear their reasons behind the support of the bill. I am still not sure with the wording in its current form if it truly does away with all reciprocity since Oklahoma law doesn't automatically change what states accept our permits. With the nature of the agreements, it definitely could eliminate all states from accepting Oklahoma's CHL though, which is very bad and beyond intelligence.</p><p></p><p>I will also be talking to my Senator to make sure he knows that the wording in the bill as introduced is very ambiguous and he needs to stand against it regardless of if or how it is modified. It might not hurt for everyone else that is not in agreement with the wording to email their Senators as well. I will add to the email I sent to my Senator asking him to support 4 of Senator Russell's bills. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree completely as well as numerous others about the revenue by fees. Unfortunately, Oklahoma already has high fees for the CHL and the dependency on revenue by fees has possibly already set in. In its current form, I say the bill is not fit to be used to wipe my butt.</p><p></p><p>There is a bill introduced that is supposed to lower the CHL fee to $35. That is the SB1550 OK2A is talking about sponsoring and I think that is a good bill to get behind if that is truly what it is doing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vdub, post: 1708992, member: 6845"] If you will read what I posted to abajaj11 and the bold part above you copied from the link I posted, that is what I was basing the "his intentions" part of my post on. I was not saying that was what the bill was actually doing or that is what I necessarily believed the bill was doing. You can see from previous posts, I found two ways to read the changes in the bills. I was merely stating that bill as Senator Ellis supposedly intended is not getting rid of reciprocity with other states but strictly make it illegal for residents of Oklahoma to carry CHL's issued by a state other than Oklahoma. Is that what he really intended and is just changing his story now that people caught on? Who knows. I don't personally know the Senator but with the nature of gun rights in Oklahoma being behind other states, I would not give him the benefit of the doubt. I have not heard back from the Senator as I am sure he might have been swamped with emails over this bill. I will update when he responds with what he says. In its current form, the bill needs to be scrapped and ORA needs to be kicked in the mouth for trying to help pass such legislation. I would love to hear their reasons behind the support of the bill. I am still not sure with the wording in its current form if it truly does away with all reciprocity since Oklahoma law doesn't automatically change what states accept our permits. With the nature of the agreements, it definitely could eliminate all states from accepting Oklahoma's CHL though, which is very bad and beyond intelligence. I will also be talking to my Senator to make sure he knows that the wording in the bill as introduced is very ambiguous and he needs to stand against it regardless of if or how it is modified. It might not hurt for everyone else that is not in agreement with the wording to email their Senators as well. I will add to the email I sent to my Senator asking him to support 4 of Senator Russell's bills. I agree completely as well as numerous others about the revenue by fees. Unfortunately, Oklahoma already has high fees for the CHL and the dependency on revenue by fees has possibly already set in. In its current form, I say the bill is not fit to be used to wipe my butt. There is a bill introduced that is supposed to lower the CHL fee to $35. That is the SB1550 OK2A is talking about sponsoring and I think that is a good bill to get behind if that is truly what it is doing. [/QUOTE]
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