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<blockquote data-quote="vvvvvvv" data-source="post: 2469061" data-attributes="member: 5151"><p>Most (if not all) vo-techs aren't available online. The only online information is a line item for payroll the last time I was able to check (when Oklahoma's open records portal supported other browsers than Internet Explorer). In the past, it was pretty regular for media raising advertising rates to use "publication of payroll information" as a negotiating tool. Certain schools didn't want that published because of certain salary disparities (as in two administrative assistants - same years on job - same qualifications - same job description except A "supervises" B - A makes $40K, B makes $60K).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're making the assumption that 100% of state funding only goes to high school students enrolled in full time programs. However, high school students enrolled in full time programs account for only 4.17% of CareerTech's total enrollment (391,882).</p><p></p><p>Let's assume that TIPs and ISTs receive $0 state dollars. That brings the amount per student to ~$1100. If we take out ACDs, that's ~$3736 for full-time programs.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, only ~$700M, or ~15% is non-state funding (using the numbers you provided). Where your $4,800 probably comes from is state appropriations, and state appropriations are not the only state source of funding. Also, state and federal sources do not take into account local sources.</p><p></p><p>As for instructor salaries at vo-techs, the metro areas have to compete with the private sector for talent. Many rural instructors don't make much more than they would teaching high school - some make less but do it because of the satisfaction it brings.</p><p></p><p>And believe me, not all campuses are palaces. Some are nicer than others, and some just have a pretty façade.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vvvvvvv, post: 2469061, member: 5151"] Most (if not all) vo-techs aren't available online. The only online information is a line item for payroll the last time I was able to check (when Oklahoma's open records portal supported other browsers than Internet Explorer). In the past, it was pretty regular for media raising advertising rates to use "publication of payroll information" as a negotiating tool. Certain schools didn't want that published because of certain salary disparities (as in two administrative assistants - same years on job - same qualifications - same job description except A "supervises" B - A makes $40K, B makes $60K). You're making the assumption that 100% of state funding only goes to high school students enrolled in full time programs. However, high school students enrolled in full time programs account for only 4.17% of CareerTech's total enrollment (391,882). Let's assume that TIPs and ISTs receive $0 state dollars. That brings the amount per student to ~$1100. If we take out ACDs, that's ~$3736 for full-time programs. Actually, only ~$700M, or ~15% is non-state funding (using the numbers you provided). Where your $4,800 probably comes from is state appropriations, and state appropriations are not the only state source of funding. Also, state and federal sources do not take into account local sources. As for instructor salaries at vo-techs, the metro areas have to compete with the private sector for talent. Many rural instructors don't make much more than they would teaching high school - some make less but do it because of the satisfaction it brings. And believe me, not all campuses are palaces. Some are nicer than others, and some just have a pretty façade. [/QUOTE]
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