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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 2751722" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>I'm a proponent of term limits, but I agree that term limits can also produce pay for play scenario's where a legislator gets a bonus for their vote. </p><p></p><p>Lobby's are a necessary evil in a representative style of government IMHO. We as individual citizens rely on lobbies to advance our agenda. Yes, we need to limit lobbies. I agree totally. How, is beyond my position in life, but it certainly needs to involve payoffs and bonuses.</p><p> I had a job at one time as a purchasing agent for a large company. The incentive to buy a product for "bonuses" was certainly out there if somebody was inclined to take advantage of it. </p><p></p><p>As far as a legislator being in office for a long term, making them more knowledgeable, I dispute this. IMHO it make their staff more aware as the staff is what runs the office of the legislator.</p><p>The legislator does not sit at their desk and pour over books of legal codes and make determinations about the legal questions they are asked by their constituents. The staff does that for them. </p><p></p><p>Most likely the majority of them don't understand the legalities of the laws they vote to pass. </p><p></p><p>You can't tell me that a dirt farmer that goes to congress can write a law in legalese that will pass the supreme court. Its the staff that does this. </p><p></p><p>When an R takes over an office that was formerly represented by a D, they likely get the same staff.</p><p></p><p>So now we have an issue of the staff changing their coats after an election and being fair, while being a government worker? </p><p></p><p>How can the "staff" serving a Dem all of a sudden become an advocate of tea party principles?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 2751722, member: 5412"] I'm a proponent of term limits, but I agree that term limits can also produce pay for play scenario's where a legislator gets a bonus for their vote. Lobby's are a necessary evil in a representative style of government IMHO. We as individual citizens rely on lobbies to advance our agenda. Yes, we need to limit lobbies. I agree totally. How, is beyond my position in life, but it certainly needs to involve payoffs and bonuses. I had a job at one time as a purchasing agent for a large company. The incentive to buy a product for "bonuses" was certainly out there if somebody was inclined to take advantage of it. As far as a legislator being in office for a long term, making them more knowledgeable, I dispute this. IMHO it make their staff more aware as the staff is what runs the office of the legislator. The legislator does not sit at their desk and pour over books of legal codes and make determinations about the legal questions they are asked by their constituents. The staff does that for them. Most likely the majority of them don't understand the legalities of the laws they vote to pass. You can't tell me that a dirt farmer that goes to congress can write a law in legalese that will pass the supreme court. Its the staff that does this. When an R takes over an office that was formerly represented by a D, they likely get the same staff. So now we have an issue of the staff changing their coats after an election and being fair, while being a government worker? How can the "staff" serving a Dem all of a sudden become an advocate of tea party principles? [/QUOTE]
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