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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 2816667" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>As usual, the best reporting is not U.S. reporting:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3331558/Turkey-shoots-fighter-jet-Syrian-border-Local-media-footage-flaming-plane-crashing-trees.html" target="_blank">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3331558/Turkey-shoots-fighter-jet-Syrian-border-Local-media-footage-flaming-plane-crashing-trees.html</a></p><p></p><p>Here's the deal. Obama has been slow rolling the "effort" to "contain" ISIS because he secretly wants them to defeat Assad. The FSA was never going to get it done and had we armed them like McCain was begging to do, those additional U.S. weapons would now be in ISIS hands. That will leave a power vacuum and we would step in with Turkey to "restore order" to the region. Russia would have a hard time doing so because they'd have to do everything from the sea and over Iraqi airspace, via Iran. Turkey has been buying oil directly from ISIS, to the tune of $800 million dollars so far. They've also been actively opposing the arming of the Kurds to combat ISIS, which would screw up their real plans.</p><p></p><p>Russia knows this is 100% about undercutting their overland energy routes to Europe. The so-called "Arab Spring" was never about human rights because most of the combatants filling the void are actually more brutal than the dictators they're deposing. We don't intercede in Sudan or Nigeria, despite the atrocities there being as bad or worse than Syria. Why? Because they have no impact on global energy movement. </p><p></p><p>I've been saying this for several years now, to no avail. This is the worst kept secret in the history of poorly kept secrets, yet the media is pretending it isn't happening. <img src="/images/smilies/mad.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-shortname=":mad:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 2816667, member: 1132"] As usual, the best reporting is not U.S. reporting: [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3331558/Turkey-shoots-fighter-jet-Syrian-border-Local-media-footage-flaming-plane-crashing-trees.html[/url] Here's the deal. Obama has been slow rolling the "effort" to "contain" ISIS because he secretly wants them to defeat Assad. The FSA was never going to get it done and had we armed them like McCain was begging to do, those additional U.S. weapons would now be in ISIS hands. That will leave a power vacuum and we would step in with Turkey to "restore order" to the region. Russia would have a hard time doing so because they'd have to do everything from the sea and over Iraqi airspace, via Iran. Turkey has been buying oil directly from ISIS, to the tune of $800 million dollars so far. They've also been actively opposing the arming of the Kurds to combat ISIS, which would screw up their real plans. Russia knows this is 100% about undercutting their overland energy routes to Europe. The so-called "Arab Spring" was never about human rights because most of the combatants filling the void are actually more brutal than the dictators they're deposing. We don't intercede in Sudan or Nigeria, despite the atrocities there being as bad or worse than Syria. Why? Because they have no impact on global energy movement. I've been saying this for several years now, to no avail. This is the worst kept secret in the history of poorly kept secrets, yet the media is pretending it isn't happening. :mad: [/QUOTE]
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