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<blockquote data-quote="Donald" data-source="post: 920038" data-attributes="member: 5934"><p>I shoot 100/200 yard Benchrest. I have two custom full race competition rifles. Both have Stiller's Viper actions. One is a Rightbolt, leftport, righteject. The other is a drop port. The first uses a coned bolt face and the drop port uses a Remington type bolt fact. So cant change barrels between actions even though they are all chambered for the 6ppc cartridge. Of the 7 barrels I currently have for these rifles, 3 are Shilen, 2 Krieger, 1 Bartlein and 1 Brux. All stainless light varmint contour and all of course are select match grade. The Shilens are button rifled, the others are cut rifled. I think the cut rifled barrels shoot a tad better than the button rifled ones, but it depends on the conditions, and I can't prove it either. The Kreiger and Bartlein are the more expensive, running around $280-$300 for a contoured blank 26 inches long. The Brux is $265 and I think you can get the Shilens for around $240 or so. There is a guy in Texas, known as "The Barrel Man" that has been selling the match grade Shilens for $240 + shipping. For my use, if the barrel will not shoot 5 shot groups at 100 under 0.250, I have little use for it. If you want a good chrome moly barrel try the Brux. I think they are $225. Brux only makes match grade barrels, cut rifled, double lapped, both CM and SS. They have a web site. They have been kind of unknown for a while but they are getting more popular and waiting time is around 4-5 weeks now. Their CM barrels come in the white, so you would have to have it blued, if you wanted to. I put the Brux on my drop port, went to the range to test it. Shot 2 fouler shots then a 3 shot group. That group, shots 3,4 and 5 out of that barrel went into 0.084". It is somewhat particular to the bullet it likes. I only shoot match grade bullets thru them. Bruno's, Bart's, Cheek's and Gentners. Most are 65-68 grain 6mm, running around 3320 fps. Some flat base some BT. If you buy a cheap barrel don't expect it to shoot like a match barrel. Brunos Shooter supply in Arizona usually has Kreigher, Shilen, Hart in stock. To get best accuracy you need to decide what bullet you want to shoot and select the twist rate best for that bullet. Doesn't hurt to go a bit faster twist than needed but don't expect a 1/12 twist 224 barrel to stabilize the long 77-80 grain bullets. Look up Berger Bullets web site, they have a suggested twist rate for each bullet they make. Believe me the match grade bullets shoot better than the factory made ones. I use Nosler BT for fireforming cases. You will of course not be able to tell the difference in bullets unless you are shooting a match grade barrel on a match grade platform. </p><p></p><p>Donald</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Donald, post: 920038, member: 5934"] I shoot 100/200 yard Benchrest. I have two custom full race competition rifles. Both have Stiller's Viper actions. One is a Rightbolt, leftport, righteject. The other is a drop port. The first uses a coned bolt face and the drop port uses a Remington type bolt fact. So cant change barrels between actions even though they are all chambered for the 6ppc cartridge. Of the 7 barrels I currently have for these rifles, 3 are Shilen, 2 Krieger, 1 Bartlein and 1 Brux. All stainless light varmint contour and all of course are select match grade. The Shilens are button rifled, the others are cut rifled. I think the cut rifled barrels shoot a tad better than the button rifled ones, but it depends on the conditions, and I can't prove it either. The Kreiger and Bartlein are the more expensive, running around $280-$300 for a contoured blank 26 inches long. The Brux is $265 and I think you can get the Shilens for around $240 or so. There is a guy in Texas, known as "The Barrel Man" that has been selling the match grade Shilens for $240 + shipping. For my use, if the barrel will not shoot 5 shot groups at 100 under 0.250, I have little use for it. If you want a good chrome moly barrel try the Brux. I think they are $225. Brux only makes match grade barrels, cut rifled, double lapped, both CM and SS. They have a web site. They have been kind of unknown for a while but they are getting more popular and waiting time is around 4-5 weeks now. Their CM barrels come in the white, so you would have to have it blued, if you wanted to. I put the Brux on my drop port, went to the range to test it. Shot 2 fouler shots then a 3 shot group. That group, shots 3,4 and 5 out of that barrel went into 0.084". It is somewhat particular to the bullet it likes. I only shoot match grade bullets thru them. Bruno's, Bart's, Cheek's and Gentners. Most are 65-68 grain 6mm, running around 3320 fps. Some flat base some BT. If you buy a cheap barrel don't expect it to shoot like a match barrel. Brunos Shooter supply in Arizona usually has Kreigher, Shilen, Hart in stock. To get best accuracy you need to decide what bullet you want to shoot and select the twist rate best for that bullet. Doesn't hurt to go a bit faster twist than needed but don't expect a 1/12 twist 224 barrel to stabilize the long 77-80 grain bullets. Look up Berger Bullets web site, they have a suggested twist rate for each bullet they make. Believe me the match grade bullets shoot better than the factory made ones. I use Nosler BT for fireforming cases. You will of course not be able to tell the difference in bullets unless you are shooting a match grade barrel on a match grade platform. Donald [/QUOTE]
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