Shooting in Red River, NM

[El Pablo]

I wouldn't call it "big time areas" as there probably are shootings and assaults in many more places.

And no, I generally don't carry anywhere.

Most malls are high crime areas. Lots of targets and opportunity. Mostly theft but…

 

[jakeman]

Some people just want to belong to something. Sometimes the people that join a club never had a family growing up and this is a way for them to have a family.

I guess that's fair, but there are other places to join that are less criminal.

How are MC 1%'ers different than MS-13 though? You could say the same for members of almost any crime oriented gang including the mob probably. No family, want a family. I'll join up with these guys and rape & pillage & sell narcotics & murder. Great family environment. I've known some Bandidoes in the past. They were not good people.

Bloods, crips, MS-13, 1%'ers, the mob; these are all organizations that have killed people in the past, shot up casinos and the like and they will again because of the "colors" they wear. It's despicable.

Some of the biker organizations are fronts for running drugs and maybe worse, but overall bikers are pretty law abiding citizens. The American Legion riders are veterans that ride together, put on charity events like poker runs and so on. As was said, it only takes a few to ruin a great rally where all but 4 of the 20,000 were law abiding attendees.

99%'ers. People that just enjoy riding and having friends to do it with.

I don't remember when it happened but I remember reading about some outlaw MC club pulling over a group of old fat retired dudes with their wives riding Goldwings out side of Houston because the old dudes and their wives had the audacity to be wearing a city name on the back of their jackets that these guys claimed as their territory. Terrorized a bunch of old men and women riding Hondas along side a highway because of a patch. Bunch of jag offs. Keep that crap between the "clubs" and leave normal law abiding people alone.

They're dregs, and I don't think I'm ever gonna change my mind about them. they're no different than bloods, crips, SS locos, MS-13 and the mob. Decent people need to also remember; when you lay with dogs you get fleas.

 

[Snattlerake]

I have had numerous interactions with biker gangs from the CA Hell's Angels, Outlaws, Pagens, Mongols, and Bandidos. Most of the time they were just riding through town and we had everyone you could find in a uniform and patrol car at each traffic signal to give them the right of way, get them out of town and to make a large police presence visible. We did not want any of them to stop at any traffic device. They were usually preceded by a KHP trooper and "escorted" through the state by leap frogging troopers.

 

[Snattlerake]

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On a good note, Here are a few pics.

Hard to see in last photo but it came down a snow/ice mix for about 5 mins.

It must be two o'clock in the afternoon when those rain pictures were taken. You can almost set your watch by the daily afternoon rain shower at 2 p.m.

 

[Broncos]

I have had numerous interactions with biker gangs from the CA Hell's Angels, Outlaws, Pagens, Mongols, and Bandidos. Most of the time they were just riding through town and we had everyone you could find in a uniform and patrol car at each traffic signal to give them the right of way, get them out of town and to make a large police presence visible. We did not want any of them to stop at any traffic device. They were usually preceded by a KHP trooper and "escorted" through the state by leap frogging troopers.

We sealed off I70 and escorted those that needed fuel

 

[Snattlerake]