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<blockquote data-quote="Rod Snell" data-source="post: 2931747" data-attributes="member: 796"><p>It's pretty much a pointless argument because every major court contest between the 4th and 2nd amendments regarding private property, the 4th amendment has won, including in Oklahoma.</p><p>The law is the same as for your home. Would you want to be unable to ask someone to leave and charge them with trespassing if they don't? I doubt it.</p><p>Having a business does not take away any property rights, and the owner can put up "No Shoes, no service" or "no firearms allowed." What he can't do is search you to see if you have a gun. But if he sees you do, he has every legal right to ask you to leave and can call the police if you don't. Do you see the difference? He can even serve you with notice you are prohibited from ever setting foot on his property again, and you can be charged with criminal trespass if you return. This is usually used on repeat shoplifters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rod Snell, post: 2931747, member: 796"] It's pretty much a pointless argument because every major court contest between the 4th and 2nd amendments regarding private property, the 4th amendment has won, including in Oklahoma. The law is the same as for your home. Would you want to be unable to ask someone to leave and charge them with trespassing if they don't? I doubt it. Having a business does not take away any property rights, and the owner can put up "No Shoes, no service" or "no firearms allowed." What he can't do is search you to see if you have a gun. But if he sees you do, he has every legal right to ask you to leave and can call the police if you don't. Do you see the difference? He can even serve you with notice you are prohibited from ever setting foot on his property again, and you can be charged with criminal trespass if you return. This is usually used on repeat shoplifters. [/QUOTE]
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