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<blockquote data-quote="p238shooter" data-source="post: 2405287" data-attributes="member: 24583"><p>While I agree what he did was not legal or ethical, what he has done shows our US Government is even less legal and ethical than some of us considered. It seems his data collection methods were "automatic" and it collected anything it could find, and he most likely found more than even he expected. We do expect our intelligence agencies to "spy" on other countries for military and economic reasons, they are aware of this just as they try to spy on us. This makes sense for the security of our country.</p><p></p><p>What this has brought out though that seems to be most disturbing to most of us is the detail our US Government is spying on all of its own US Citizens in ways that are illegal, un-ethical, and down right immoral. Most of us should not be considered a terror threat to our nation enough that detailed information of this sort should be collected, filed, scrutinized, and kept on every US Citizen. Every move we make we are tracked, every text we send copied, every email copied, every telephone call we make is logged, and most likely recorded or soon will be, every purchase we make is filled, basically every trip we make to the bathroom is recorded and kept on file. </p><p></p><p>Notice how most every app in your phone says it can listen and take pictures on it's own with out your knowledge, might not be doing that today, but when you accepted the app it can be turned on any time in the future.</p><p></p><p>I do see getting a court order to track a suspected bad guy to turn on these capabilities should be considered, but to "watch, monitor, and log" every person's activities in the US on a minute by minute basis in my opinion is going to far, and way beyond what our Constitution allows.</p><p></p><p>I have noticed the put down's of people wearing "tin foil hats" has virtually disappeared on this site. I guess they were right all along.</p><p></p><p>As long as this country follows our Constitution, and we have "justice and equality for all", I guess we will be OK, not looking so good at the moment though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="p238shooter, post: 2405287, member: 24583"] While I agree what he did was not legal or ethical, what he has done shows our US Government is even less legal and ethical than some of us considered. It seems his data collection methods were "automatic" and it collected anything it could find, and he most likely found more than even he expected. We do expect our intelligence agencies to "spy" on other countries for military and economic reasons, they are aware of this just as they try to spy on us. This makes sense for the security of our country. What this has brought out though that seems to be most disturbing to most of us is the detail our US Government is spying on all of its own US Citizens in ways that are illegal, un-ethical, and down right immoral. Most of us should not be considered a terror threat to our nation enough that detailed information of this sort should be collected, filed, scrutinized, and kept on every US Citizen. Every move we make we are tracked, every text we send copied, every email copied, every telephone call we make is logged, and most likely recorded or soon will be, every purchase we make is filled, basically every trip we make to the bathroom is recorded and kept on file. Notice how most every app in your phone says it can listen and take pictures on it's own with out your knowledge, might not be doing that today, but when you accepted the app it can be turned on any time in the future. I do see getting a court order to track a suspected bad guy to turn on these capabilities should be considered, but to "watch, monitor, and log" every person's activities in the US on a minute by minute basis in my opinion is going to far, and way beyond what our Constitution allows. I have noticed the put down's of people wearing "tin foil hats" has virtually disappeared on this site. I guess they were right all along. As long as this country follows our Constitution, and we have "justice and equality for all", I guess we will be OK, not looking so good at the moment though. [/QUOTE]
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