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<blockquote data-quote="J.P." data-source="post: 696892" data-attributes="member: 6"><p>Sounds like you're in good company.<img src="/images/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>I'm seriously considering grabbin' an SP-101...maybe in .327? <img src="/images/smilies/anyone.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":anyone:" title="Anyone :anyone:" data-shortname=":anyone:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Very nice....probably won't be your last. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>LH M624 </p><p><img src="/images/smilies/bowdown.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":bowdown:" title="Bowdown :bowdown:" data-shortname=":bowdown:" /></p><p>Two of the N-frame snubs I mentioned earlier were Hortons (657/629)</p><p></p><p>When not reloading I just use WWB or whatever old .38sp I can get my hands on.</p><p>I've got several loads worked up and doc'd but I did so when I was shooting revolver division in IDPA and my notes are packed away right now....I'm gonna' have to dig them up....</p><p></p><p>*You guys might find it of interest but when shooting Stock Service Revolver division in IDPA rather than download and make powderpuff power floor competition loads, you have to actually load <strong>UP</strong> to +P+ loads in .38 special.<img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p>None of the factory stuff is powerful enough to make power factor which IIRC is 125,000? (someone correct me if I'm wrong)</p><p>Now, there may be a <em>couple</em> of brands of <strong>158gr+P</strong> that meet power factor... Fiocci perhaps? I never found any locally so I didn't bother to research it further but maybe Jerry Biggs, Buzzdraw, or someone else can tell us which ones (factory ammo) meet the specifications.</p><p>So while all the gamers are downloading, us wheelgun guys are having to load up-uP-UP just to stay legal.<img src="/images/smilies/image488.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":bigeye:" title="Image488 :bigeye:" data-shortname=":bigeye:" /></p><p>I found it tougher to do than I <em>thought</em> it'd be and it seems to be more critical to match your components to stay safely over the floor and still be accurate.</p><p>But with help from the guys I just mentioned above and from the Galactic Wheelgun Master Guru: Curt Nichols, I was able to pull together some nice loads.</p><p>Anyway, that was just a side note I thought I'd share with you guys who didn't know....while I was working the loads up I did also come up with some nice soft shootin' plinking rounds and like I say...when I can get to storage I'll try to grab me recipes and share them.</p><p></p><p>For self defense I've been using the Federal Nyclad 158gr+P LSWCHP for a long, long time.</p><p>They've not been easy to find but before prices went all dickwhacky I ordered some online and I also found a small retailer with a secret stash locally to keep me in supply.....I've now depleted those however. :cry:</p><p>I look for them at gunshows and I always try to hit the little gun/pawn shops to find deals on them whenever I get a chance.</p><p></p><p>That said, I've been thinking of switching over to another more modern load for the .38, but I'd like to do some wetpack testing first if possible.</p><p>One of the rounds I've been interested in is the new Hornady Critical Defense w/ their polymer tipped FTX bullet.....looks to be a great expander.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Pop into every little hole-in-the-wall pawn/gun shop you find...try the gun shows...and maybe ammoman after the panic slows down (if ever)</p><p></p><p></p><p>GED, Federal is again making the 125gr .38sp Nyclad load.</p><p>I did some wetpack testing with them and I really didn't care for the results compared to the 158gr+p version.</p><p>Nyclad expansion isn't anything to write home about particularly in the area of consistancy but in my experiences the standard pressure 125gr version was the worst of the three Nyclad loads I tested both in terms of expansion and penetration.<img src="/images/smilies/anyone.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":anyone:" title="Anyone :anyone:" data-shortname=":anyone:" /></p><p>I opted for the 158gr+p version because they at least have the penetration advantage going for them in a relatively low powered caliber.</p><p>(well, let's face it...and because they're <span style="color: Blue">blue</span> and cool <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" />)</p><p>Personally, I think you'd probably be better off looking at the standard pressure 125gr Hornady FTX...or maybe even the Gold Dot short barrel version.<img src="/images/smilies/anyone.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":anyone:" title="Anyone :anyone:" data-shortname=":anyone:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've nowhere near the level of experience you do with those things but I shot about 100rd of .45acp that was purchased after WWII and left in a dresser drawer for almost 50 years...it all worked just fine.</p><p>Several mags worth of the ammo (it was RemingtonIIRC) were loaded in Colt GI mags which had also been stashed for about as long and they all worked flawlessly in the Colt Government as well...</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure that being stored in an Ethan-Allen bedroom dresser is considered "proper storage" but it goes to show that ammo is generally pretty tolerant of father time as long as it's handled/stored in halfway reasonable conditions.<img src="/images/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J.P., post: 696892, member: 6"] Sounds like you're in good company.;) I'm seriously considering grabbin' an SP-101...maybe in .327? :anyone: Very nice....probably won't be your last. :) LH M624 :bowdown: Two of the N-frame snubs I mentioned earlier were Hortons (657/629) When not reloading I just use WWB or whatever old .38sp I can get my hands on. I've got several loads worked up and doc'd but I did so when I was shooting revolver division in IDPA and my notes are packed away right now....I'm gonna' have to dig them up.... *You guys might find it of interest but when shooting Stock Service Revolver division in IDPA rather than download and make powderpuff power floor competition loads, you have to actually load [B]UP[/B] to +P+ loads in .38 special.:) None of the factory stuff is powerful enough to make power factor which IIRC is 125,000? (someone correct me if I'm wrong) Now, there may be a [I]couple[/I] of brands of [B]158gr+P[/B] that meet power factor... Fiocci perhaps? I never found any locally so I didn't bother to research it further but maybe Jerry Biggs, Buzzdraw, or someone else can tell us which ones (factory ammo) meet the specifications. So while all the gamers are downloading, us wheelgun guys are having to load up-uP-UP just to stay legal.:bigeye: I found it tougher to do than I [I]thought[/I] it'd be and it seems to be more critical to match your components to stay safely over the floor and still be accurate. But with help from the guys I just mentioned above and from the Galactic Wheelgun Master Guru: Curt Nichols, I was able to pull together some nice loads. Anyway, that was just a side note I thought I'd share with you guys who didn't know....while I was working the loads up I did also come up with some nice soft shootin' plinking rounds and like I say...when I can get to storage I'll try to grab me recipes and share them. For self defense I've been using the Federal Nyclad 158gr+P LSWCHP for a long, long time. They've not been easy to find but before prices went all dickwhacky I ordered some online and I also found a small retailer with a secret stash locally to keep me in supply.....I've now depleted those however. :cry: I look for them at gunshows and I always try to hit the little gun/pawn shops to find deals on them whenever I get a chance. That said, I've been thinking of switching over to another more modern load for the .38, but I'd like to do some wetpack testing first if possible. One of the rounds I've been interested in is the new Hornady Critical Defense w/ their polymer tipped FTX bullet.....looks to be a great expander. Pop into every little hole-in-the-wall pawn/gun shop you find...try the gun shows...and maybe ammoman after the panic slows down (if ever) GED, Federal is again making the 125gr .38sp Nyclad load. I did some wetpack testing with them and I really didn't care for the results compared to the 158gr+p version. Nyclad expansion isn't anything to write home about particularly in the area of consistancy but in my experiences the standard pressure 125gr version was the worst of the three Nyclad loads I tested both in terms of expansion and penetration.:anyone: I opted for the 158gr+p version because they at least have the penetration advantage going for them in a relatively low powered caliber. (well, let's face it...and because they're [COLOR="Blue"]blue[/COLOR] and cool :D) Personally, I think you'd probably be better off looking at the standard pressure 125gr Hornady FTX...or maybe even the Gold Dot short barrel version.:anyone: I've nowhere near the level of experience you do with those things but I shot about 100rd of .45acp that was purchased after WWII and left in a dresser drawer for almost 50 years...it all worked just fine. Several mags worth of the ammo (it was RemingtonIIRC) were loaded in Colt GI mags which had also been stashed for about as long and they all worked flawlessly in the Colt Government as well... I'm not sure that being stored in an Ethan-Allen bedroom dresser is considered "proper storage" but it goes to show that ammo is generally pretty tolerant of father time as long as it's handled/stored in halfway reasonable conditions.;) [/QUOTE]
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