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<blockquote data-quote="tRidiot" data-source="post: 3272294" data-attributes="member: 9374"><p>Well, this is a very sticky situation. Let's HYPOTHESIZE that a HYPOTHETICAL person like one of us, someone relatively opinionated on political and 2A matters, .GOV overreach, society's progression towards socialism, etc., is having a convo with one of their child's teachers, or their doctor, or really ANYONE they know casually, but not particularly well, and makes the assumption this person is both aligned with their conservative views and also trustworthy - both of which are <strong>EXTREMELY </strong>dangerous assumptions.</p><p></p><p>So, in the course of this casual conversation, they're both commiserating on the general state of things, and our HYPOTHETICAL person says, "Damn, man, I can see where someone would want to go shoot up the courthouse, based on some of the shite these politicians are doing."</p><p></p><p>Now... our other party maybe is a bit more 'moderate' or a bit more... shall we say, nervous? As in, they don't oppose firearms, per se, but they aren't exposed to them regularly, are a little uncomfortable with 'some of those people' having them, etc. And they decide this person needs to be disarmed, or at least investigated. So this is a person who is ostensibly in a position of some authority AND a position of some responsibility. AND their recall of the conversation may not be particularly accurate, and all of a sudden, the report becomes, "This guy was ranting about the government and said he understood why someone would kill all the politicians at the capitol and he has a TON of guns in his house, I know!"</p><p></p><p>So... how do you think this plays out when a doctor, a teacher, a school administrator or anyone else generally considered a "responsible professional" makes this report to law enforcement? How long do you think before this guy gets visited at work by people with badges, perhaps escorted out in cuffs from his insurance adjuster job, his house has a SWAT van pull up outside and his door kicked in and then neighbors see officers carrying out dozens of long guns, handguns, cases of ammo and file cabinets full of paperwork (looking for 'manifestos', of course). </p><p></p><p>How many of us would unintentionally, and completely INNOCENTLY, fall into this trap??? Over some silly, offhanded and harmless comment or exaggeration? Seriously?</p><p></p><p>And how many of us would have an 'arsenal' carted out of our house, reported on by media and filmed by reporters across the street or by a chopper overhead? And how many of us would subsequently be shunned by neighbors, fellow church members, maybe even lose our jobs, or at LEAST lose clientele, due to news and newspaper coverage, Facebook slanderizing, and word of mouth that is almost NEVER accurate to the real situation?</p><p></p><p>How quickly could your life and livelihood be ruined? Kinda scary, huh?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tRidiot, post: 3272294, member: 9374"] Well, this is a very sticky situation. Let's HYPOTHESIZE that a HYPOTHETICAL person like one of us, someone relatively opinionated on political and 2A matters, .GOV overreach, society's progression towards socialism, etc., is having a convo with one of their child's teachers, or their doctor, or really ANYONE they know casually, but not particularly well, and makes the assumption this person is both aligned with their conservative views and also trustworthy - both of which are [B]EXTREMELY [/B]dangerous assumptions. So, in the course of this casual conversation, they're both commiserating on the general state of things, and our HYPOTHETICAL person says, "Damn, man, I can see where someone would want to go shoot up the courthouse, based on some of the shite these politicians are doing." Now... our other party maybe is a bit more 'moderate' or a bit more... shall we say, nervous? As in, they don't oppose firearms, per se, but they aren't exposed to them regularly, are a little uncomfortable with 'some of those people' having them, etc. And they decide this person needs to be disarmed, or at least investigated. So this is a person who is ostensibly in a position of some authority AND a position of some responsibility. AND their recall of the conversation may not be particularly accurate, and all of a sudden, the report becomes, "This guy was ranting about the government and said he understood why someone would kill all the politicians at the capitol and he has a TON of guns in his house, I know!" So... how do you think this plays out when a doctor, a teacher, a school administrator or anyone else generally considered a "responsible professional" makes this report to law enforcement? How long do you think before this guy gets visited at work by people with badges, perhaps escorted out in cuffs from his insurance adjuster job, his house has a SWAT van pull up outside and his door kicked in and then neighbors see officers carrying out dozens of long guns, handguns, cases of ammo and file cabinets full of paperwork (looking for 'manifestos', of course). How many of us would unintentionally, and completely INNOCENTLY, fall into this trap??? Over some silly, offhanded and harmless comment or exaggeration? Seriously? And how many of us would have an 'arsenal' carted out of our house, reported on by media and filmed by reporters across the street or by a chopper overhead? And how many of us would subsequently be shunned by neighbors, fellow church members, maybe even lose our jobs, or at LEAST lose clientele, due to news and newspaper coverage, Facebook slanderizing, and word of mouth that is almost NEVER accurate to the real situation? How quickly could your life and livelihood be ruined? Kinda scary, huh? [/QUOTE]
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