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<blockquote data-quote="Frederick" data-source="post: 2909049" data-attributes="member: 17825"><p>'true socialism' meaning communism, government control of all facets of life with power and force monopolized by the State, culture and a command economy. When he refers to 'true socialism' he's probably referring to systems such as that which existed in the U.S.S.R.</p><p></p><p>I believe he is trying to differentiate that from the social and economic liberalism that exists in the United States. Generally thrown in with communism in the same way that being a neo-conservative is thrown in with nazism and fascism. It's easy to throw modern social liberalism and their belief in a mixed economy in with the extremists to discredit their ideas and opinions.</p><p></p><p>When you speak of liberals in the United States, they generally believe in stronger government involvement and economic interference in the economy.</p><p>Though some of their policies may be critiqued fairly as 'socialist' in a sense, even liberals in the United States are on the right side of the political spectrum. Most liberals believe in capitalism and a free market economy, they just believe in regulating it more.</p><p></p><p>I don't think if you truly are a communist or a socialist you would be a gun owner, because both of those ideologies stress the power and control of the State. Including a complete monopoly on the use of force.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frederick, post: 2909049, member: 17825"] 'true socialism' meaning communism, government control of all facets of life with power and force monopolized by the State, culture and a command economy. When he refers to 'true socialism' he's probably referring to systems such as that which existed in the U.S.S.R. I believe he is trying to differentiate that from the social and economic liberalism that exists in the United States. Generally thrown in with communism in the same way that being a neo-conservative is thrown in with nazism and fascism. It's easy to throw modern social liberalism and their belief in a mixed economy in with the extremists to discredit their ideas and opinions. When you speak of liberals in the United States, they generally believe in stronger government involvement and economic interference in the economy. Though some of their policies may be critiqued fairly as 'socialist' in a sense, even liberals in the United States are on the right side of the political spectrum. Most liberals believe in capitalism and a free market economy, they just believe in regulating it more. I don't think if you truly are a communist or a socialist you would be a gun owner, because both of those ideologies stress the power and control of the State. Including a complete monopoly on the use of force. [/QUOTE]
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