Sooners featured in HBO documentary on academics, 'football degree'

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NORMAN -- Gerald Gurney, a former senior associate athletic director at Oklahoma, said that he "made sure" OU student-athletes graduated to comply with the NCAA's academic reform initiative.

The Oklahoma professor agreed when asked if his work helped Saturdays happen at OU football games.

"And there's one like me at every big-time university in the country," Gurney said during a segment airing at 9 p.m. Tuesday on HBO's "Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel."


Oklahoma, North Carolina and Memphis are featured during an investigative report by HBO correspondent Bernard Goldberg titled "Gaming the System." A press release said "lower admission standards, coupled with higher graduation requirements, meant that many top-flight schools needed to commit resources for learning specialists to ensure that student-athletes measured up."


An advance copy was provided to the Tulsa World by HBO.


Four student-athletes were interviewed, including former OU offensive lineman Eric Mensik, who graduated in 2010.


An Oklahoma athletic department spokesperson said the school would not have a comment -- if any -- until after Tuesday's broadcast.


In 2003, the NCAA instituted an academic reform initiative to reemphasize a commitment to the education of all student-athletes, mandating that schools graduate a majority of each team or face punishments ranging from a loss of scholarships to a ban on postseason play.


"Can you imagine what it might be like if the University of Oklahoma could not go to a bowl game?" Gurney said. "Could you imagine what might happen? I mean that's an impossibility."


Gurney is currently an assistant professor of adult and higher education. Among his accomplishments while with the athletic department, according to an OU bio, is that he "merged all support functions into one area with a focus on graduation and preparation of the student-athlete for the world after college and competition."


The HBO broadcast said part of his mission was "making sure the prized football program didn't get hurt by the NCAA's new graduation rules."


Gurney, who was in charge, said he "did make sure" that players stayed eligible and enough graduated so OU could go to a bowl game.


The segment heavily featured North Carolina and learning specialist Mary Willingham, a UNC learning specialist who has been an advocate for academic reform. Willingham said she had to help some former football players learn to read while they were taking college courses.


Mensik, now an office worker, said he received a degree in multi-disciplinary studies. He said it hasn't helped him during his job search following school.


"It's just kind of a degree that you were able to put together and say 'Hey, I got a diploma,'" Mensik said while being interviewed.


"It's a football degree."

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I'll be the first to say that it could be a witch hunt just like what SI did to OSU this past season. These guys. however, have actual sources that have named names, including the guy form OU who incriminated himself in the quotes, at least how it was worded here.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if it were all true.
 

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Just hire these kids out of high school, sign them to a 4 year salary contract, give them free access to academics if they want it and be done with the sham.
 

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College athlete's coasting through just to play ball? OMG say it isn't so!!

It's no secret athletes, primarily football and basketball, are "assisted" to maintain an acceptable grade point average. It used to be done flagrantly but now it's on the sly but it's still widely known that it goes on. Many of these athletes have grown up with no desire or intention to receive an education because sports are going to make them rich. They are "assisted" through high school to maintain eligibility to play sports and when they get a college scholarship to play ball the cycle continues because at this point many of them can barely spell or form sentences. It's mind boggling how many of these guys graduate college with a four year degree and couldn't read a book on their own.

Look at your low income areas and ask those kids out playing ball in a field what they plan on being when they grow up. You'll hear two choices from the vast majority... professional athlete or a rapper. Not lawyer, firefighter, business owner, pilot, architect...... that is sad. It's sad that generations of kids have no dreams other than professional athlete or rapper and that it's acceptable and encouraged by families. Obviously to be a professional athlete or even a rapper you have to have some exceptional talent and that's a very small percentage of these kids. Where do most of the ones that don't make it end up? Selling drugs, committing crimes....we all see it every day in the city and it is a massive problem across America.

College athletes shouldn't be given sports scholarship's if they aren't willing to take on the academics like every other student. If you aren't willing or incapable (because of blowing off high school) of handling the academics then college athlete is not a career option for you. Eliminate the practice of moving athletes through the academic portion of high school and college and you will force potential athletes to take their education seriously. It can end the apathy in low income areas where kids have two goals in life and won't even try to prepare themselves for other jobs should they not become the next big rapper or sports star.

Our current approach to getting athletes through the educational system so they can win championships for their particular university and move on to the professional side is breeding generations of apathetic kids who know if they can play sports well they don't have to work for an education also. The diploma and degrees are guaranteed as long as they play "the game" along with the game. Why work hard to learn when you will be given the benefits without the effort? A college degree, a career potentially worth millions and living large without any effort other than playing ball...that's what these kids dream of because that's exactly how the system works.

It's a sham and everyone knows it, it's in your face every time some college athlete is interviewed after a game win. A reporter asks a question and you get some unintelligible gibberish that makes you shudder. Obviously that is not the case with all athletes, some take the opportunity seriously and earn their degrees but, unfortunately, that's not the norm.
 

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Mensik, now an office worker, said he received a degree in multi-disciplinary studies. He said it hasn't helped him during his job search following school.


"It's just kind of a degree that you were able to put together and say 'Hey, I got a diploma,'" Mensik said while being interviewed.


"It's a football degree."

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsext...cle_c9249e6a-9b9a-5e6f-853e-3ec0effbc773.html

This is where this whole thing needs to be exposed because that degree "program" is likely not available to the general student population. While that is probably not a direct NCAA violation (I'll give the schools some credit here), I think it is a violation of the spirit of the concept of a "student-athlete."
 

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My wife has a multidisciplinary degree from OU. She had a lot of different classes that didn't fit into a traditional degree and they merged them into a degree in art history and she graduated. It hasn't been of much use to is but it's a degree. OU has to keep their grad rates up so they pull stuff like that to get students out and money in. I'm sure other schools do the same and they'll make their athletes graduate as well. If they really wanted a degree they would be working towards it and not football so I could care less that he's crying about his degree.
 

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My wife has a multidisciplinary degree from OU. She had a lot of different classes that didn't fit into a traditional degree and they merged them into a degree in art history and she graduated. It hasn't been of much use to is but it's a degree. OU has to keep their grad rates up so they pull stuff like that to get students out and money in. I'm sure other schools do the same and they'll make their athletes graduate as well. If they really wanted a degree they would be working towards it and not football so I could care less that he's crying about his degree.

Thanks for further info on how that works.
 

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I'd be happy if the colleges let them take any drug they want, and make as much money as they can under amature contracts.

The college makes money, and the kids will be zombies right after they graduate with a cake decorating degree.

BUT! the college has raised a ton of money to pay for the liberal Nazi's they employ.
 

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