Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
Latest activity
Classifieds
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Log in
Register
What's New?
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Navigation
Install the app
Install
More Options
Advertise with us
Contact Us
Close Menu
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Forums
The Range
Law & Order
Stand Your Ground law coming under scrutiny due to the Zimmerman/Florida incident
Search titles only
By:
Reply to Thread
This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Stephen Cue" data-source="post: 1772179" data-attributes="member: 3008"><p>...and run their mouth they did!</p><p></p><p>Speaking of Kenneth Gumm's case, a few bits of correlation between his case the the Flo. case.</p><p></p><p>1. Use of deadly force against an unarmed man.</p><p>2. Use of deadly force against what could be assumed as misdeamor A&B.</p><p>3. Defendant charged with serious degree of murder/manslaughter.</p><p></p><p>Of course there are a myriad of differences. From the onset, Gumm did not claim SYG, he stated he thought his life was endanger and tried "retreating around his car a couple times" before firing to "stop him, not kill him".</p><p></p><p>To me Gumm's mistakes were obviously not calling 911, getting out of his car thus losing protection from 'Castle Doctrine', brandishing his deadly force tool immediatley before an actual threat of severe bodily harm/death (As oppose to a percieved treat to SBH/D). </p><p></p><p>Then of course, the slew of other mistakes post-shooting.</p><p></p><p>Outside of the media frenzy, Zimmerman to me has more of a case due to lack of clear evidence/witnesses. There were plenty of eye witness accounts in the Gumm case.</p><p></p><p>Ill be paying close attention to see how they correlate in the future.</p><p></p><p>Also, Gumm pled out pre-trial so a jury never got to hear the case in which there was plenty of cause for a judge allow for a trial. Zimmerman will most definitely not plea out IF a judge allows for trial.</p><p></p><p>Thoughts?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stephen Cue, post: 1772179, member: 3008"] ...and run their mouth they did! Speaking of Kenneth Gumm's case, a few bits of correlation between his case the the Flo. case. 1. Use of deadly force against an unarmed man. 2. Use of deadly force against what could be assumed as misdeamor A&B. 3. Defendant charged with serious degree of murder/manslaughter. Of course there are a myriad of differences. From the onset, Gumm did not claim SYG, he stated he thought his life was endanger and tried "retreating around his car a couple times" before firing to "stop him, not kill him". To me Gumm's mistakes were obviously not calling 911, getting out of his car thus losing protection from 'Castle Doctrine', brandishing his deadly force tool immediatley before an actual threat of severe bodily harm/death (As oppose to a percieved treat to SBH/D). Then of course, the slew of other mistakes post-shooting. Outside of the media frenzy, Zimmerman to me has more of a case due to lack of clear evidence/witnesses. There were plenty of eye witness accounts in the Gumm case. Ill be paying close attention to see how they correlate in the future. Also, Gumm pled out pre-trial so a jury never got to hear the case in which there was plenty of cause for a judge allow for a trial. Zimmerman will most definitely not plea out IF a judge allows for trial. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]
Insert Quotes…
Verification
Post Reply
Forums
The Range
Law & Order
Stand Your Ground law coming under scrutiny due to the Zimmerman/Florida incident
Search titles only
By:
Top
Bottom