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Stand Your Ground law coming under scrutiny due to the Zimmerman/Florida incident
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<blockquote data-quote="Antigonus" data-source="post: 1775923" data-attributes="member: 19664"><p>This is only true if you assume that Zimmerman was the victim. The woman in your scenario is a victim, whereas we don't know whether or not Zimmerman was the victim of a totally random, life-threatening beating.</p><p></p><p>For me, the basic truth is that if the SYG is taken to its logical extremes, all one has to do in order to murder someone successfully and openly is get them in an isolated place, shoot them in the head, then claim self defense. Then the burden falls to the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was not in fact self defense, which is extremely hard to do. If you're comfortable with that, well, I guess I don't know what to say. I hope you never end up in an isolated place with someone who doesn't like you or is deranged enough to want to kill you and probably get away with it.</p><p></p><p>If someone comes into your house and you kill them that's one thing - then I can see the burden of proof falling on the state to show that you weren't trying to protect your own life. But if "your ground" means basically anywhere, then how can we act surprised when incidents like this happen?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Antigonus, post: 1775923, member: 19664"] This is only true if you assume that Zimmerman was the victim. The woman in your scenario is a victim, whereas we don't know whether or not Zimmerman was the victim of a totally random, life-threatening beating. For me, the basic truth is that if the SYG is taken to its logical extremes, all one has to do in order to murder someone successfully and openly is get them in an isolated place, shoot them in the head, then claim self defense. Then the burden falls to the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was not in fact self defense, which is extremely hard to do. If you're comfortable with that, well, I guess I don't know what to say. I hope you never end up in an isolated place with someone who doesn't like you or is deranged enough to want to kill you and probably get away with it. If someone comes into your house and you kill them that's one thing - then I can see the burden of proof falling on the state to show that you weren't trying to protect your own life. But if "your ground" means basically anywhere, then how can we act surprised when incidents like this happen? [/QUOTE]
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