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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow" data-source="post: 1204126" data-attributes="member: 7123"><p>OK, here's the deal. Let me see if I can cobble together my thoughts on this.</p><p></p><p>Don't own one yet. Want to get two or more.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately / Eventually, I want to get two very good, overbuilt suppressors, one in 9mm, and one in .22lr, for this setup:</p><p></p><p>1. The .22lr one will be used on 3 guns: (a) a CZ 452 Scout with a custom 1 in 9" bbl, and Aguila SSS ammo, (b) an AR15 type with Ceiner .22lr conversion, with regular ammo, and (c) (<strong><em>possibly also</em></strong>) a Browning Buckmark .22. It's primary role/use will be on the CZ 452.</p><p></p><p>2. The 9mm one needs to supremely overbuilt, if such a thing exists, because I intend to use it on 3 guns, including (a) CZ 85 with threaded barrel, in 9x19mm, (b) a custom SBR turnbolt in .338 Phantom, with a 10" threaded 1 in 6.5 twist bbl - but NEVER with anything except subsonic loads (300 SMKs @ 1,050), and (c) (<em><strong>possibly also</strong></em>) a T/C Contender in .357 Mag, 8" bbl, threaded (of course). It's primary use will be the custom .338 spectre turnbolt.</p><p></p><p>Now, as you can see, the 2 third (c) options are undecided present, and I could be happy without suppressing these ultimately, but if I could, it would be a bonus. But I definitely want to swap the .22 between the CZ 452 and the AR15 w/Ceiner, and definitely want to swap the 9mm between the CZ85 and the .338 Phantom turnbolt (subsonic only).</p><p></p><p>But, for now, for the time being, until I can afford to get the 2nd suppressor (which the 2nd one will be the good .22lr rimfire one), I want to get a fantastic overbuilt 9mm one, and use on the two 9mm guns, and then also temporarily use it to suppress the .22s, until I get the dedicated .22 one. In my understanding, a 9mm suppressor will still suppress a .22 a lot - enough to make a real difference. It needs to be overbuilt to handle the extra powder/gas needed for subsonic .338 Spectre loads.</p><p></p><p>Which one fits this description? And I suppose I *may* need one that is adaptable to different threadings - at a minimum, it needs to fit standard AR15 threads (1/2 x 28 tpi).</p><p></p><p>I suppose that I can make ALL of these ultimately be the same threading, of 1/2 x 28 tpi:</p><p></p><p>--AR15 (already is)</p><p>--CZ 452 Scout custom (will build it to my specs)</p><p>--.338 spectre custom (will build it to my specs)</p><p>--Browning Buckmark (can have it threaded to my specs)</p><p>--T/C Contender .357 mag (can have it threaded to my specs)</p><p></p><p>But what about my aftermarket CZ85/75 bbl that I buy - what threading will be the standard on those? What's the "pistol standard" threading specs? Are these also 1/2 x 28? Or can you choose among multiple threadings when ordering? Obviously, I want my first suppressor to be able to fit ALL 6 of these, if at all humanly possible. My guess is pistols are 5/8ths or bigger, to accomodate big bores like .45..... I know nothing about pistol suppressors...</p><p></p><p>Also, although the 9mm one needs to be large/overbuilt, it needs to be able to work with a locked breech handgun like a CZ 75. Are these two thing irreconcilably opposed, or very possible to do at the same time? Will I need one small and one large? If so, then I'm gonna forget about suppressing the CZ 85 and just look at a huge one for the .338 spectre.</p><p></p><p>What other things should I know / consider?</p><p></p><p>Thanks very much.</p><p>Sorry, noobish questions....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow, post: 1204126, member: 7123"] OK, here's the deal. Let me see if I can cobble together my thoughts on this. Don't own one yet. Want to get two or more. Ultimately / Eventually, I want to get two very good, overbuilt suppressors, one in 9mm, and one in .22lr, for this setup: 1. The .22lr one will be used on 3 guns: (a) a CZ 452 Scout with a custom 1 in 9" bbl, and Aguila SSS ammo, (b) an AR15 type with Ceiner .22lr conversion, with regular ammo, and (c) ([B][I]possibly also[/I][/B]) a Browning Buckmark .22. It's primary role/use will be on the CZ 452. 2. The 9mm one needs to supremely overbuilt, if such a thing exists, because I intend to use it on 3 guns, including (a) CZ 85 with threaded barrel, in 9x19mm, (b) a custom SBR turnbolt in .338 Phantom, with a 10" threaded 1 in 6.5 twist bbl - but NEVER with anything except subsonic loads (300 SMKs @ 1,050), and (c) ([I][B]possibly also[/B][/I]) a T/C Contender in .357 Mag, 8" bbl, threaded (of course). It's primary use will be the custom .338 spectre turnbolt. Now, as you can see, the 2 third (c) options are undecided present, and I could be happy without suppressing these ultimately, but if I could, it would be a bonus. But I definitely want to swap the .22 between the CZ 452 and the AR15 w/Ceiner, and definitely want to swap the 9mm between the CZ85 and the .338 Phantom turnbolt (subsonic only). But, for now, for the time being, until I can afford to get the 2nd suppressor (which the 2nd one will be the good .22lr rimfire one), I want to get a fantastic overbuilt 9mm one, and use on the two 9mm guns, and then also temporarily use it to suppress the .22s, until I get the dedicated .22 one. In my understanding, a 9mm suppressor will still suppress a .22 a lot - enough to make a real difference. It needs to be overbuilt to handle the extra powder/gas needed for subsonic .338 Spectre loads. Which one fits this description? And I suppose I *may* need one that is adaptable to different threadings - at a minimum, it needs to fit standard AR15 threads (1/2 x 28 tpi). I suppose that I can make ALL of these ultimately be the same threading, of 1/2 x 28 tpi: --AR15 (already is) --CZ 452 Scout custom (will build it to my specs) --.338 spectre custom (will build it to my specs) --Browning Buckmark (can have it threaded to my specs) --T/C Contender .357 mag (can have it threaded to my specs) But what about my aftermarket CZ85/75 bbl that I buy - what threading will be the standard on those? What's the "pistol standard" threading specs? Are these also 1/2 x 28? Or can you choose among multiple threadings when ordering? Obviously, I want my first suppressor to be able to fit ALL 6 of these, if at all humanly possible. My guess is pistols are 5/8ths or bigger, to accomodate big bores like .45..... I know nothing about pistol suppressors... Also, although the 9mm one needs to be large/overbuilt, it needs to be able to work with a locked breech handgun like a CZ 75. Are these two thing irreconcilably opposed, or very possible to do at the same time? Will I need one small and one large? If so, then I'm gonna forget about suppressing the CZ 85 and just look at a huge one for the .338 spectre. What other things should I know / consider? Thanks very much. Sorry, noobish questions.... [/QUOTE]
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