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That's what happens when a demagogue exploits emotions like fear to gain followers.

Per the article...

"Many feel on edge about the possible dire effects of his decisions, rhetoric, and policies."

"There is a fear of the world ending," she said. "It's very disorienting and constantly unsettling."

"Although “Trump Anxiety Disorder” is not an official diagnosis, the symptoms include a lack of sleep, a feeling of losing of control and helplessness in an unpredictable sociopolitical climate, along with endless negative headlines, and excessive time spent on social media. "

Hobbes... show us where the "demagogue" hurt you with his words and then let's take a nap.
 

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Per the article...

"Many feel on edge about the possible dire effects of his decisions, rhetoric, and policies."

"There is a fear of the world ending," she said. "It's very disorienting and constantly unsettling."

"Although “Trump Anxiety Disorder” is not an official diagnosis, the symptoms include a lack of sleep, a feeling of losing of control and helplessness in an unpredictable sociopolitical climate, along with endless negative headlines, and excessive time spent on social media. "

Hobbes... show us where the "demagogue" hurt you with his words and then let's take a nap.

A demagogue thrives on chaos, fear, phobia.
Many people use their reasoning skills less and focus on the threat.

"We are under attack"
"We are the stupid people"
"China is raping our country"
"They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists..."
"Donald J Trump is calling for the complete shutdown of muslims entering this country"
"The whole world is laughing at us"
and many more...

Is it any wonder that xanax sales are through the roof?
 

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Nobody here has TAD. Nobody thinks the world is ending. Some are just questioning the soundness of some of the policies of the current President. That's far from TAD LOL. The inability of some people to engage in debate about the efficacy of a small R Republican president's policies without accusing the other side of being leftist, Hillary loving, TAD sufferers is comical.

There might be some research to do on another disorder, Trump Defender Syndrome.

In other news. Doing some research on U.S. steel production...our mills have been running far below the financially healthy Capacity Utilization Rate of 90% for a long time. There were running at 74% last year and have inched up to 77% as of last week (in other words, nobody is building any new steel mills any time soon, unless it is to replace an aging, inefficient one like the Chinese are doing). A long way to go but it will be neat to see if they can get up to 90% without artificial conditions being set by the government. THAT would be real economic growth, lasting growth. I hope we get there.
 

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Incidentally, one of the reasons the US lags in steel production--not just against China, but even against Europe--is WWII. During WWII, the Allies bombed the daylights out of Axis steel mills (and Japanese), and the Axis similarly bombed European Allied mills. The US mainland, however, was generally untouched by the war, so our twenties-vintage steel mills survived. Europe, Japan, etc. had to build new, so their stuff is fifties- and sixties-vintage. While we've had some incremental upgrades since then, they're still fundamentally three decades older.

Tearing down the old mills and building new ones would be a dramatic leap forward, but it'd be incredibly expensive, and the new mills would still have to compete with the cost of Chinese steel. There's just no level of tariff that would pay for brand-new mills at any significant scale that wouldn't send the economy into a tail spin. The best we can hope to see is more incremental upgrades, and increased utilization of the mills we already have. Maybe a few new small-scale mills, but certainly nothing of the size to constitute an industrial base.
 

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Nobody here has TAD. Nobody thinks the world is ending. Some are just questioning the soundness of some of the policies of the current President. That's far from TAD LOL. The inability of some people to engage in debate about the efficacy of a small R Republican president's policies without accusing the other side of being leftist, Hillary loving, TAD sufferers is comical.

In all fairness, I'm only questioning the one that is crying "rape." He's still trying to explain it btw lol..... carry on.
 

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