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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3139286" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>Here is the fallacy of your argument. Farmers are free to plant any damned thing they want and do. </p><p>If I thought I could make more money on grain sorghum vs beans, I'd plant sorghum. </p><p>If I thought I could make more money from industrial hemp than I could by planting wheat, I would. </p><p>Farms are not a single purpose facility. Every farmer has options, and your sources are full of BS for focusing on one crop as a point of discussion. </p><p>Sorry man, but you can't cherry pick one farmer and call it the death of farming. </p><p>BTW, I've been approached by reps of industrial hemp. Huge profits according to them quoting results from Oregon and Colorado that I couldn't verify. </p><p>In talks with NRCS and FSA reps, it is still an illegal plant according to federal law no matter what Oklahoma says. In fact if I do plant it, not only arrest, but the chance of losing the wheat base on the land of planted crops outside of the regs. County NRCS and FSA reps have been told by their Washington DC bosses to keep their mouth shut about industrial hemp. Yeah, I'm on top of it. </p><p>That being said there is a nugget in the current farm bill before congress that might allow industrial hemp to be legalized and even reclassify it into something that wouldn't have an effect of the wheat base the land currently owns. </p><p>If and when that happens, the price of industrial hemp will fall into the barely make it year after year just like every other crop. Its called supply and demand. Currently, no matter what the reps of the legal hemp say, there is not one single processing plant in the state of Oklahoma to process any hemp that might be grown and harvested. I hear rumors of some possible startups in the works, but if that fails, it's against federal law to transport across state lines, so basically hemp is currently in the same boat as emu's, ostrich eggs, and worm farms. Great scams that lots of folks bought into and failed at. Pyramid schemes at best.</p><p>World markets determine what farmers and beef ranchers make. When the markets are skewed against them with foreign tariffs, the farmers and ranchers in this country can suffer at times. At other times the rains come at just the right time and life is good until next season. Farming and ranching is not a go to work, punch a timecard and go home at the end of the day job. Local, state, federal, and world politics, weather and markets all come into play to make it one more year. </p><p>Yeah, I'm sorry you had to tell me about that soybean farmer. Hope he puts in some ethanol based corn next year, but beans might be back. You just don't know.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 3139286, member: 5412"] Here is the fallacy of your argument. Farmers are free to plant any damned thing they want and do. If I thought I could make more money on grain sorghum vs beans, I'd plant sorghum. If I thought I could make more money from industrial hemp than I could by planting wheat, I would. Farms are not a single purpose facility. Every farmer has options, and your sources are full of BS for focusing on one crop as a point of discussion. Sorry man, but you can't cherry pick one farmer and call it the death of farming. BTW, I've been approached by reps of industrial hemp. Huge profits according to them quoting results from Oregon and Colorado that I couldn't verify. In talks with NRCS and FSA reps, it is still an illegal plant according to federal law no matter what Oklahoma says. In fact if I do plant it, not only arrest, but the chance of losing the wheat base on the land of planted crops outside of the regs. County NRCS and FSA reps have been told by their Washington DC bosses to keep their mouth shut about industrial hemp. Yeah, I'm on top of it. That being said there is a nugget in the current farm bill before congress that might allow industrial hemp to be legalized and even reclassify it into something that wouldn't have an effect of the wheat base the land currently owns. If and when that happens, the price of industrial hemp will fall into the barely make it year after year just like every other crop. Its called supply and demand. Currently, no matter what the reps of the legal hemp say, there is not one single processing plant in the state of Oklahoma to process any hemp that might be grown and harvested. I hear rumors of some possible startups in the works, but if that fails, it's against federal law to transport across state lines, so basically hemp is currently in the same boat as emu's, ostrich eggs, and worm farms. Great scams that lots of folks bought into and failed at. Pyramid schemes at best. World markets determine what farmers and beef ranchers make. When the markets are skewed against them with foreign tariffs, the farmers and ranchers in this country can suffer at times. At other times the rains come at just the right time and life is good until next season. Farming and ranching is not a go to work, punch a timecard and go home at the end of the day job. Local, state, federal, and world politics, weather and markets all come into play to make it one more year. Yeah, I'm sorry you had to tell me about that soybean farmer. Hope he puts in some ethanol based corn next year, but beans might be back. You just don't know. [/QUOTE]
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