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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow" data-source="post: 1184778" data-attributes="member: 7123"><p>No, sir, they do not, I don't believe - not like the Glock, if that is what you're calling a 'European grip'. Which one(s)? Are you talking current production, or old stuff that is no longer made (for good reason).</p><p></p><p>If you get into measurements, the M&P, XD, CZ75, BHP, and the vast majority of the others are far, <strong><em><u>FAR</u></em></strong> closer to 1911 than they are to glock - we can get out the protractors if you like! <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /> THAT's 'WTF', since you asked!</p><p></p><p>Tell you what, guys - I don't want to derail this one any more (and sorry for doing so. But instead I will start a "Glocks suck nards bigtime, for the price, and here's why" thread of sorts, to discuss this there. Give me a day or so.... That will get some folks riled up! <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>And when I start that one...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I will answer this question of course - but I need to know - are you asking (a) among polymer frames only, or (b) among all pistols, polymer or otherwise? But for starters, XD and M&P!!</p><p></p><p>Again, I owned about 5 or 6 glocks in the 90s and early 2000s, so I think I know of what I speak.....shot them a lot. I was a *HUGE* fanboy/ koolaid drinker!! Had a 21, then 27, then 29, then 30, then 20....I think that's it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow, post: 1184778, member: 7123"] No, sir, they do not, I don't believe - not like the Glock, if that is what you're calling a 'European grip'. Which one(s)? Are you talking current production, or old stuff that is no longer made (for good reason). If you get into measurements, the M&P, XD, CZ75, BHP, and the vast majority of the others are far, [B][I][U]FAR[/U][/I][/B] closer to 1911 than they are to glock - we can get out the protractors if you like! :) THAT's 'WTF', since you asked! Tell you what, guys - I don't want to derail this one any more (and sorry for doing so. But instead I will start a "Glocks suck nards bigtime, for the price, and here's why" thread of sorts, to discuss this there. Give me a day or so.... That will get some folks riled up! :D And when I start that one... I will answer this question of course - but I need to know - are you asking (a) among polymer frames only, or (b) among all pistols, polymer or otherwise? But for starters, XD and M&P!! Again, I owned about 5 or 6 glocks in the 90s and early 2000s, so I think I know of what I speak.....shot them a lot. I was a *HUGE* fanboy/ koolaid drinker!! Had a 21, then 27, then 29, then 30, then 20....I think that's it. [/QUOTE]
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