The begaining of WW3?

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In the Tulsa World this morning was an article about threats from Communist China to take over Taiwan, called RE-UNIFICATION BY THE GREAT LEADER, by any means necessary! Communist China has wanted to do this since 1949, and would have long ago except for the fear of U.S., and Allies intervention! I suspect all these illogical things that have happened the last couple of years, starting with the pandemic, BIO WARFARE, that made this rigged election COUP, possible, and installed a PUPPET REGIME in Washington DC., including many seats in Congress, was planned, and executed by Communist China's Military intelligence! This was so well planned, and executed, that half the population of the U.S. still don't know what happened, and the other half still think THEY WON, 10 months later! Democratic Politicians simply could not have done this, they are simply not that smart! Communist China has been trying to create an incident by flying military plains, fighters, and bombers, into Taiwan's air space, literally HUNDREDS in the last four days! Any excuse will do, so they can clam Taiwan started it, WATCH! What do you think Biden will do? If we fight China, who knows were that cpould lead! If we bend the knee, why wouldn't they take South Korea, Japan, and anyone else they choose? Communist China is the number two economic power on earth, with these three countries under their control, they will be NUMBER ONE, RIGHT? Just one example is, Taiwan manufactures 60% of the worlds micro chips, added to the number made in Japan, South Korea, that number would be 80% to 90% wouldn't it? Literally EVERYTHING from toasters to cars, to high tech weapons, requires these micro chips!!!! That ONE THING ALONE COULD PUT THIS GREAT COUNTRY OUT OF BUSINESS, AND OUT OF EXISTANCE, IF AT WAR WITH COMMUNIST CHINA, COULDN'T IT? GOOD LUCK TO US! Some guy commented on here that someone is building a huge micro chip plant in Arizona now. I hope that is true, and I hope it not Communist China!
 

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We won’t go to China with Xiden installed. That’s why he was. We will bend. We won’t do anything military. We happily keep buying from China, at ever increasing rates. We will continue to and ever more so being taken over and being china’s *****.

ETA: war is a great distraction, economic driver and unifier. And China has way too many men for their population of women. Estimated a hundred million more than women that are military aged. So, either losing a bunch or conquering a nation for their men to have women may be helpful. So, we may have a very staged and planned conflict.
 

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Act Blue a Democratic super pac received over $1 billion in pre-paid mc/visa cards. Where you suppose those came from ? And were they handed out in exchange for mail-in ballots?
 

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In the Tulsa World this morning was an article about threats from Communist China to take over Taiwan, called RE-UNIFICATION BY THE GREAT LEADER, by any means necessary! Communist China has wanted to do this since 1949, and would have long ago except for the fear of U.S., and Allies intervention! I suspect all these illogical things that have happened the last couple of years, starting with the pandemic, BIO WARFARE, that made this rigged election COUP, possible, and installed a PUPPET REGIME in Washington DC., including many seats in Congress, was planned, and executed by Communist China's Military intelligence! This was so well planned, and executed, that half the population of the U.S. still don't know what happened, and the other half still think THEY WON, 10 months later! Democratic Politicians simply could not have done this, they are simply not that smart! Communist China has been trying to create an incident by flying military plains, fighters, and bombers, into Taiwan's air space, literally HUNDREDS in the last four days! Any excuse will do, so they can clam Taiwan started it, WATCH! What do you think Biden will do? If we fight China, who knows were that cpould lead! If we bend the knee, why wouldn't they take South Korea, Japan, and anyone else they choose? Communist China is the number two economic power on earth, with these three countries under their control, they will be NUMBER ONE, RIGHT? Just one example is, Taiwan manufactures 60% of the worlds micro chips, added to the number made in Japan, South Korea, that number would be 80% to 90% wouldn't it? Literally EVERYTHING from toasters to cars, to high tech weapons, requires these micro chips!!!! That ONE THING ALONE COULD PUT THIS GREAT COUNTRY OUT OF BUSINESS, AND OUT OF EXISTANCE, IF AT WAR WITH COMMUNIST CHINA, COULDN'T IT? GOOD LUCK TO US! Some guy commented on here that someone is building a huge micro chip plant in Arizona now. I hope that is true, and I hope it not Communist China!

what, that cheap junk they produce? let's be honest, America would adjust to a world without cheap Chinese products.

They may in the distant future acquire the means, technology and training to seize taiwan and deal us a massive military blow. but Chinese interests don't extend very far into the Pacific, and are mostly Asia centric and interested in controlling and protecting trade.

a war with China would be a matter of controlling sea lanes and trade, and exerting economic influence. China can never hope to invade the USA or defeat it militarily on it's own soil, and we can never hope to do that to China. But the risks are greater for China than the U.S. if China loses this game, their entire country is basically cut off from the world and their economy is destroyed. They import most of their resources and are highly dependant on trade. If we destroy their naval ability and maintain control over Taiwan, we can basically choke the Chinese out.

If china defeats us, they might dominate Asia and exert greater influence over economics and trade in asia. But the USA is in a far stronger geographical position than china. We have two oceans, vast natural resources and strong soft-power. China is isolated. to the North, the Siberian wilderness. To the West, Vast deserts. To the South, the Hindu Kush. they've managed to piss off all their neighbors with their bellicose antics, not that their neighbors need any convincing since they've been hating the Chinese for over a millenia. the Indians, vietnamese, Japanese, south koreans, Taiwan...China is effectively surrounded. It would be foolish for them to act in an aggressive way that will provoke their own destruction, as long as the status quo remains.

that's simply my layman's interpretation of the situation.
 

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PRC can absolutely invade, occupy, and incorporate Taiwan under Beijing's control. No question in that.

The two questions are at what price the PLA is willing to pay, and how fast are they needing to get it done.. The US can make it more painful and slow it down but there is no realistic way it can be stopped if the conflict is not widened to other theaters for the Chinese.

As long as we are talking realism, if the Taiwan straights become an active battlespace, no US carrier could survive more than an hour or two. Even outside but close to the first island chain, carrier groups will spend more attention on avoiding incoming attacks than conducting offensive operations.
 

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I really don't care what China does with Taiwan. I damn sure wouldn't want my son to risk his life for Taiwan.

Maybe these heroes that think we need to go to war could start an all-volunteer army to go fight for Taiwan.....
 
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