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<blockquote data-quote="buckeye" data-source="post: 1843058" data-attributes="member: 8467"><p>Not speaking to any of the points made, but I've always been very suspicious of those kinds of metrics. Infant mortality for one thing is tabulated differently from one country to the next and I'd like to know how 178th (or whatever) was calculated. Is median income adjusted for cost of living? How does one measure ranking in "science" and where is all this published so we can see if it's apples to apples? (Hint: I suspect sundry fruit is involved.)</p><p></p><p>To his points, well yes, the accomplishments of my Fathers (and Mothers) do seem to overshadow those of our present. I agree with most of the list regarding moral motivations and decisions, but many people don't, so how is that reconciled? Who declared war on poor people and how exactly were they better treated in the past? More effective charity, more/better government handouts? </p><p></p><p>I don't know guys, that rant doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It wanders from veiled references to the left wing then to the right wing with no clear stance or even a hint of what to do about it. It's just a bunch of bitching.</p><p></p><p>Besides, our optimism has always relied not on whether we measured as the best, but that we believed we did. Or maybe that we didn't give a crap, we just tried our hardest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buckeye, post: 1843058, member: 8467"] Not speaking to any of the points made, but I've always been very suspicious of those kinds of metrics. Infant mortality for one thing is tabulated differently from one country to the next and I'd like to know how 178th (or whatever) was calculated. Is median income adjusted for cost of living? How does one measure ranking in "science" and where is all this published so we can see if it's apples to apples? (Hint: I suspect sundry fruit is involved.) To his points, well yes, the accomplishments of my Fathers (and Mothers) do seem to overshadow those of our present. I agree with most of the list regarding moral motivations and decisions, but many people don't, so how is that reconciled? Who declared war on poor people and how exactly were they better treated in the past? More effective charity, more/better government handouts? I don't know guys, that rant doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It wanders from veiled references to the left wing then to the right wing with no clear stance or even a hint of what to do about it. It's just a bunch of bitching. Besides, our optimism has always relied not on whether we measured as the best, but that we believed we did. Or maybe that we didn't give a crap, we just tried our hardest. [/QUOTE]
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