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<blockquote data-quote="Timmy59" data-source="post: 3203600" data-attributes="member: 39982"><p>To go along with post 28..</p><p></p><p>Hard times create strong men,</p><p>Strong men create good times,</p><p>Good times create weak men,</p><p>Weak men create hard times.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The circle of life, what goes up, must come down.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, in November 2016, I believe that we are in the “weak men create hard times” part of the cycle.</p><p></p><p>“A nation is born a stoic and dies an epicurean” Will Durant</p><p></p><p>Strength and success are born out of stoic values.</p><p></p><p>The Stoics elaborated a detailed taxonomy of virtue, dividing virtue into four main types: wisdom, justice, courage, and moderation. – The Google definition of Stoic Values</p><p></p><p>To have wisdom, justice, courage and moderation is to be strong where one will defer his or her own happiness and pleasure for virtue.</p><p></p><p>To the stoics, virtue was more important than happiness in life.</p><p></p><p>In contrast Epicurean values stem from Epicurus and he believed:</p><p></p><p>that what he called “pleasure” was the greatest good, but that the way to attain such pleasure was to live modestly, to gain knowledge of the workings of the world, and to limit one’s desires. This would lead one to attain a state of tranquility (ataraxia) and freedom from fear as well as an absence of bodily pain (aponia). The combination of these two states constitutes happiness in its highest form… Epicureanism is a form of hedonism – Source Wikipedia</p><p></p><p>Where pleasure, personal happiness, limited desire, modest living, knowledge without action, tranquility, absense of bodily pain and hedonism take over, a weak man is born.</p><p></p><p>As a millenial, I can say that my generation is certainly Epicurean in nature. We are indeed living in a time of weak men who create hard times.</p><p></p><p>Today’s young man between 20-30 is drowning in pleasure through video games and pornography, he will not have a serious or real relationship with a woman to make a family or bear children until late in life or perhaps ever. Our birth rates are down and costs of living are high, so traditional families are in decline. His personal happiness comes first above all else. He has limited desire and ambition and in effect, must live modestly. He is the most educated that a young man has ever been in history with little action taken to use his education to to reach his potential in life. He has an absense of bodily pain and we now have “safe spaces” and “cry spaces” on campuses to validate our generation’s weak emotional fortitude.</p><p></p><p>We are living in a time of weak men.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Timmy59, post: 3203600, member: 39982"] To go along with post 28.. Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times. The circle of life, what goes up, must come down. Unfortunately, in November 2016, I believe that we are in the “weak men create hard times” part of the cycle. “A nation is born a stoic and dies an epicurean” Will Durant Strength and success are born out of stoic values. The Stoics elaborated a detailed taxonomy of virtue, dividing virtue into four main types: wisdom, justice, courage, and moderation. – The Google definition of Stoic Values To have wisdom, justice, courage and moderation is to be strong where one will defer his or her own happiness and pleasure for virtue. To the stoics, virtue was more important than happiness in life. In contrast Epicurean values stem from Epicurus and he believed: that what he called “pleasure” was the greatest good, but that the way to attain such pleasure was to live modestly, to gain knowledge of the workings of the world, and to limit one’s desires. This would lead one to attain a state of tranquility (ataraxia) and freedom from fear as well as an absence of bodily pain (aponia). The combination of these two states constitutes happiness in its highest form… Epicureanism is a form of hedonism – Source Wikipedia Where pleasure, personal happiness, limited desire, modest living, knowledge without action, tranquility, absense of bodily pain and hedonism take over, a weak man is born. As a millenial, I can say that my generation is certainly Epicurean in nature. We are indeed living in a time of weak men who create hard times. Today’s young man between 20-30 is drowning in pleasure through video games and pornography, he will not have a serious or real relationship with a woman to make a family or bear children until late in life or perhaps ever. Our birth rates are down and costs of living are high, so traditional families are in decline. His personal happiness comes first above all else. He has limited desire and ambition and in effect, must live modestly. He is the most educated that a young man has ever been in history with little action taken to use his education to to reach his potential in life. He has an absense of bodily pain and we now have “safe spaces” and “cry spaces” on campuses to validate our generation’s weak emotional fortitude. We are living in a time of weak men. [/QUOTE]
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