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<blockquote data-quote="NikatKimber" data-source="post: 2043731" data-attributes="member: 423"><p>Normally I don't get into these much.</p><p></p><p>But I think it's more a mix of the Revolution and the Civil War than just the Civil War.</p><p></p><p>We have an imposing tax burden on the working class, that is nearing the unbearable point; and we have a lack of connection between us, the working class, and our representatives. Take the Health Care Reform Act. Not saying reform wasn't needed, but that there was a MASSIVE outcrying against the proposed (and now passed) legislation. They shoved it down our throats anyways.</p><p></p><p>If you look at the Revolution, the argument was over taxation, but the final straw was when the British tried to seize the American's guns. I don't know when, but the line in the sand will be when they try to take our weapons by force.</p><p></p><p>I think a growing portion of the gun culture is realizing that they've already taken some... ie, ATF registration for Class III arms; therefore we have no ground to give. Either they give ground, or we have to hold the line and say "Come and Take It... Over my Dead Body."</p><p></p><p>The question is, have we been pushed hard enough on taxation to make us mad enough to fight? And, will they push hard enough on gun control to trigger the "You can't have it" response?</p><p></p><p>As far as taxation goes, you can say we have been "decades in the making". Our national debt has gone up and up. There is a deficit pretty much constantly. At what point do the payers say "enough?"</p><p></p><p>Again, I think that will be when they try to remove our means of defense. Now, I still think nothing will pass this time; but the mind boggling response at the possibility of a ban tells you what the response will be.</p><p></p><p>My worry is that if it does happen now, we aren't as prepared as those in 1775 were.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NikatKimber, post: 2043731, member: 423"] Normally I don't get into these much. But I think it's more a mix of the Revolution and the Civil War than just the Civil War. We have an imposing tax burden on the working class, that is nearing the unbearable point; and we have a lack of connection between us, the working class, and our representatives. Take the Health Care Reform Act. Not saying reform wasn't needed, but that there was a MASSIVE outcrying against the proposed (and now passed) legislation. They shoved it down our throats anyways. If you look at the Revolution, the argument was over taxation, but the final straw was when the British tried to seize the American's guns. I don't know when, but the line in the sand will be when they try to take our weapons by force. I think a growing portion of the gun culture is realizing that they've already taken some... ie, ATF registration for Class III arms; therefore we have no ground to give. Either they give ground, or we have to hold the line and say "Come and Take It... Over my Dead Body." The question is, have we been pushed hard enough on taxation to make us mad enough to fight? And, will they push hard enough on gun control to trigger the "You can't have it" response? As far as taxation goes, you can say we have been "decades in the making". Our national debt has gone up and up. There is a deficit pretty much constantly. At what point do the payers say "enough?" Again, I think that will be when they try to remove our means of defense. Now, I still think nothing will pass this time; but the mind boggling response at the possibility of a ban tells you what the response will be. My worry is that if it does happen now, we aren't as prepared as those in 1775 were. [/QUOTE]
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