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<blockquote data-quote="ConstitutionCowboy" data-source="post: 3296851" data-attributes="member: 745"><p>Yeah, on the road maybe. But, back at the power plant, how much energy is produced to overcome the line loss, how much waste energy is dumped into the atmosphere at the plant, how much pollution is developed, and how much more coal ash is created to produce the added power consumption in coal burning plants, and even if it is a one-to-one conversion of fuel(gas, oil, or coal) to electricity used in the power plants to create power for electric vehicles as opposed to using that fuel directly in vehicles, there is no savings in fossil fuel reserves/resources. Wakeup call! Nothing is 100% efficient. (Granted, cars don't typically run on coal but the analogy stands.)</p><p></p><p>Think about the batteries. Recycling them to produce more batteries is not 100% efficient either. I don't know for sure, but I'd be willing to bet it cost more to 'disassemble' one of those batteries to the point where the materials can be reused than it costs by starting with the raw materials. Then there is the disposal aspect. You can't turn them all into coffee tables. Some are going to end up in a land fill.</p><p></p><p>This not ready for the world yet. Forcing it down our throats won't help. Baiting us with pie in the sky promises, rebates, and tax credits won't help either. When the technology arrives to make it so, then you can count me in.</p><p></p><p>Questions: What do you do when there is a widespread blackout? Is it feasible to keep your batteries at least half charged like I can keep my vehicles no less than half full 'just in case?'</p><p></p><p>Woody</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ConstitutionCowboy, post: 3296851, member: 745"] Yeah, on the road maybe. But, back at the power plant, how much energy is produced to overcome the line loss, how much waste energy is dumped into the atmosphere at the plant, how much pollution is developed, and how much more coal ash is created to produce the added power consumption in coal burning plants, and even if it is a one-to-one conversion of fuel(gas, oil, or coal) to electricity used in the power plants to create power for electric vehicles as opposed to using that fuel directly in vehicles, there is no savings in fossil fuel reserves/resources. Wakeup call! Nothing is 100% efficient. (Granted, cars don't typically run on coal but the analogy stands.) Think about the batteries. Recycling them to produce more batteries is not 100% efficient either. I don't know for sure, but I'd be willing to bet it cost more to 'disassemble' one of those batteries to the point where the materials can be reused than it costs by starting with the raw materials. Then there is the disposal aspect. You can't turn them all into coffee tables. Some are going to end up in a land fill. This not ready for the world yet. Forcing it down our throats won't help. Baiting us with pie in the sky promises, rebates, and tax credits won't help either. When the technology arrives to make it so, then you can count me in. Questions: What do you do when there is a widespread blackout? Is it feasible to keep your batteries at least half charged like I can keep my vehicles no less than half full 'just in case?' Woody [/QUOTE]
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