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<blockquote data-quote="Tanis143" data-source="post: 3337044" data-attributes="member: 43724"><p>Therein lies the rub. How can you prove they are no longer a danger to society? Honest answer, you can't until they are on the outside for a quite a while. Its impossible to do so beforehand. So, based on your belief everyone who is locked up for crimes against humanity should just rot in jail until they die. Thats an astronomical amount of people. </p><p></p><p>As for restricting or removing a right? Yes, that can be done. It shouldn't be done lightly, and it should only happen in a court of law. Is that system perfect? Hell no, but its the best solution out there. Why? It prevents environments like Iran and North Korea where the state can pass laws that if you worship one god over another you can be put to death. Speak badly about the country's leader? Death. So yes, at many times our justice system is flawed but I will still take it over every other system that has been implemented. </p><p></p><p>And finally, yes, a felon who wants a firearm will get one. But to say that is cause just to let them have them is like saying because people will drive drunk regardless we should just allow drunk driving. If anything it gives law enforcement a way to show that person is still willing to break the law and put them back in jail before they cause harm to someone. </p><p></p><p>I get your point, and to a degree I agree with it. Its just not practical or possible to do. What we have right now is the next best thing. The one thing I would change is is to institute a period where a felon can show he is willing to live within the law and be a productive member of society and all rights should be restored. There have been many people who have been convicted of violent crimes who truly have turned over a new leaf in prison and have shown they deserve a second chance. The only way they have to do that is to beg for clemency from the governor of the state he/she was prosecuted in. That happens about as often as Haley's comet graces our sky.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tanis143, post: 3337044, member: 43724"] Therein lies the rub. How can you prove they are no longer a danger to society? Honest answer, you can't until they are on the outside for a quite a while. Its impossible to do so beforehand. So, based on your belief everyone who is locked up for crimes against humanity should just rot in jail until they die. Thats an astronomical amount of people. As for restricting or removing a right? Yes, that can be done. It shouldn't be done lightly, and it should only happen in a court of law. Is that system perfect? Hell no, but its the best solution out there. Why? It prevents environments like Iran and North Korea where the state can pass laws that if you worship one god over another you can be put to death. Speak badly about the country's leader? Death. So yes, at many times our justice system is flawed but I will still take it over every other system that has been implemented. And finally, yes, a felon who wants a firearm will get one. But to say that is cause just to let them have them is like saying because people will drive drunk regardless we should just allow drunk driving. If anything it gives law enforcement a way to show that person is still willing to break the law and put them back in jail before they cause harm to someone. I get your point, and to a degree I agree with it. Its just not practical or possible to do. What we have right now is the next best thing. The one thing I would change is is to institute a period where a felon can show he is willing to live within the law and be a productive member of society and all rights should be restored. There have been many people who have been convicted of violent crimes who truly have turned over a new leaf in prison and have shown they deserve a second chance. The only way they have to do that is to beg for clemency from the governor of the state he/she was prosecuted in. That happens about as often as Haley's comet graces our sky. [/QUOTE]
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