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<blockquote data-quote="mksmth" data-source="post: 2200508" data-attributes="member: 25507"><p>i have done a lot of work for schools around tulsa as a subcontractor. I see architects/engineers way over spec the "pretty" stuff in these schools. I did one last summer in Bixby that had 5-$3,000.00 per each pendant lights in a library for elementary kids. I did one in BA that had 15k in fancy LED lights that only come on at night when no one is there, in a window that only the neighbors can see. Also an elementary. </p><p></p><p>Tulsa just passed a 38 million dollar bond issue to upgrade safety and technology. New fire and security alarms. Thats great right. Well the only problem is, and I have seen this in years past, they spec out one type of fire and security system locking in a manufacture and in most all cases an installer. If you dont think that gets marked up beyond control, um ya it does. </p><p></p><p>There is an Architect/Engineer here that does a lot of school work. They will only allow a certain manufacture of light fixtures to furnish the lights. Well that also locks in 1 Manufactures Rep and 1 electrical supply house who can buy from that rep. You dont think that each time that quote crosses a desk it doesnt get marked up 20,30,40, 100 hell who know what % at each stop before it gets to the contractor and then on to the owner, well it does.</p><p></p><p>I guess what Im saying is the districts could and can find the money if they would just open their eyes and trim the fat. Sure they are getting bonds approved but someone else is spending it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mksmth, post: 2200508, member: 25507"] i have done a lot of work for schools around tulsa as a subcontractor. I see architects/engineers way over spec the "pretty" stuff in these schools. I did one last summer in Bixby that had 5-$3,000.00 per each pendant lights in a library for elementary kids. I did one in BA that had 15k in fancy LED lights that only come on at night when no one is there, in a window that only the neighbors can see. Also an elementary. Tulsa just passed a 38 million dollar bond issue to upgrade safety and technology. New fire and security alarms. Thats great right. Well the only problem is, and I have seen this in years past, they spec out one type of fire and security system locking in a manufacture and in most all cases an installer. If you dont think that gets marked up beyond control, um ya it does. There is an Architect/Engineer here that does a lot of school work. They will only allow a certain manufacture of light fixtures to furnish the lights. Well that also locks in 1 Manufactures Rep and 1 electrical supply house who can buy from that rep. You dont think that each time that quote crosses a desk it doesnt get marked up 20,30,40, 100 hell who know what % at each stop before it gets to the contractor and then on to the owner, well it does. I guess what Im saying is the districts could and can find the money if they would just open their eyes and trim the fat. Sure they are getting bonds approved but someone else is spending it. [/QUOTE]
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