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<blockquote data-quote="Dwmckie" data-source="post: 1860434" data-attributes="member: 24492"><p>We used to belong there when we first started shooting, but that was back when Mr. Gilmore was still married and his wife (and her two dogs) were always there. If you overlooked the wife, it wasn't that bad, but over time (after the divorce) other staff came in and the attitude changed. The last time we went, we got the "it's a wonder that we, the firearm deities, allow you to even stand in our facility" attitude and that was about it for us. Living in southern Tulsa county, TFA is the closest indoor range, but what good is close if you're not comfortable with the atmosphere around you. </p><p></p><p>If I may mention this, and I hope I don't offend, but about the suicides there. One guy who worked at TFA (who helped my wife and I a LOT getting started) was on duty during one suicide. He said that it happened before anyone could react, because the guy was a member and nobody saw anything out of sorts. I'm thinking that even with having someone literally out on the range (do other ranges have firing line managers or the like?), if someone is intent upon killing themselves, they're going to do it, and even the person in the lane next to them may not be able to move fast enough to stop it. Please bear in mind that I can only speak to this one incident, so please don't read into this a defense of TFA's overall safety record. Sometimes things happen despite our intentions to avoid them. </p><p></p><p>David</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dwmckie, post: 1860434, member: 24492"] We used to belong there when we first started shooting, but that was back when Mr. Gilmore was still married and his wife (and her two dogs) were always there. If you overlooked the wife, it wasn't that bad, but over time (after the divorce) other staff came in and the attitude changed. The last time we went, we got the "it's a wonder that we, the firearm deities, allow you to even stand in our facility" attitude and that was about it for us. Living in southern Tulsa county, TFA is the closest indoor range, but what good is close if you're not comfortable with the atmosphere around you. If I may mention this, and I hope I don't offend, but about the suicides there. One guy who worked at TFA (who helped my wife and I a LOT getting started) was on duty during one suicide. He said that it happened before anyone could react, because the guy was a member and nobody saw anything out of sorts. I'm thinking that even with having someone literally out on the range (do other ranges have firing line managers or the like?), if someone is intent upon killing themselves, they're going to do it, and even the person in the lane next to them may not be able to move fast enough to stop it. Please bear in mind that I can only speak to this one incident, so please don't read into this a defense of TFA's overall safety record. Sometimes things happen despite our intentions to avoid them. David [/QUOTE]
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