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<blockquote data-quote="Billybob" data-source="post: 3152127" data-attributes="member: 1294"><p>And to be more clear the City put in $65Mil. in tax payers funds to make the park possible...</p><p><a href="https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/gatheringplace/gathering-place-announces-opening-day-schedule-including-parade/article_ff226ee3-5916-50ba-981f-6ffb9452af6f.html" target="_blank">https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/gatheringplace/gathering-place-announces-opening-day-schedule-including-parade/article_ff226ee3-5916-50ba-981f-6ffb9452af6f.html</a></p><p></p><p>The Gathering Place LLC which has leased the park also wants free water/sewer services from the city at taxpayer's expense...</p><p>"The foundation has also requested that TMUA provide free non-irrigation water and sanitary and storm-water services for the park in perpetuity."</p><p><a href="https://www.tulsaworld.com/newshomepage3/city-needs-million-to-fund-public-infrastructure-linked-to-gathering/article_f3ad9f3a-8ceb-5bce-ae1e-fbcb9782a321.html" target="_blank">https://www.tulsaworld.com/newshomepage3/city-needs-million-to-fund-public-infrastructure-linked-to-gathering/article_f3ad9f3a-8ceb-5bce-ae1e-fbcb9782a321.html</a></p><p></p><p>And if the deal is the same as the one made for the pedestrian bridge while Gathering Place takes care of routine maintenance will the city still pays for any capital improvements, would that also include repairs?</p><p><a href="https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/update-river-parks-authority-votes-to-take-over-pedestrian-bridge/article_116c8908-de12-5e2e-801a-a64c8b99730a.html" target="_blank">https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/update-river-parks-authority-votes-to-take-over-pedestrian-bridge/article_116c8908-de12-5e2e-801a-a64c8b99730a.html</a></p><p></p><p>It's wonderful to think theses people donated money for this but lets remember they'll take tax deductions for it which means less tax money for other stuff, this brings to mind something said in the original article in the other thread...“private citizens getting to decide which ‘common good’ ideas get funded is a worrisome trend.” Remember the idea behind this is to benefit unity and the poor kids in North Tulsa so why didn't they invest their generosity there where those kids are? Maybe because it's questionable as to whether you can run an entertainment venue there which is a lot of what this is going to be with concerts, rentals, a restaurant and other food vendors etc.</p><p></p><p>Kind of looks like it's costing the taxpayer's a lot to put a private corp. in control of a "public space" and allowing them to curtail the public's legal right to carry.</p><p></p><p>Another interesting question, since it belongs to River Parks but is leased out who is responsible for liabilities where booze will be sold to people who might get into the rented boats or climb on stuff that looks like it might not be allowed in public parks or school playgrounds for safety/injury reasons?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Billybob, post: 3152127, member: 1294"] And to be more clear the City put in $65Mil. in tax payers funds to make the park possible... [URL]https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/gatheringplace/gathering-place-announces-opening-day-schedule-including-parade/article_ff226ee3-5916-50ba-981f-6ffb9452af6f.html[/URL] The Gathering Place LLC which has leased the park also wants free water/sewer services from the city at taxpayer's expense... "The foundation has also requested that TMUA provide free non-irrigation water and sanitary and storm-water services for the park in perpetuity." [URL]https://www.tulsaworld.com/newshomepage3/city-needs-million-to-fund-public-infrastructure-linked-to-gathering/article_f3ad9f3a-8ceb-5bce-ae1e-fbcb9782a321.html[/URL] And if the deal is the same as the one made for the pedestrian bridge while Gathering Place takes care of routine maintenance will the city still pays for any capital improvements, would that also include repairs? [URL]https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/update-river-parks-authority-votes-to-take-over-pedestrian-bridge/article_116c8908-de12-5e2e-801a-a64c8b99730a.html[/URL] It's wonderful to think theses people donated money for this but lets remember they'll take tax deductions for it which means less tax money for other stuff, this brings to mind something said in the original article in the other thread...“private citizens getting to decide which ‘common good’ ideas get funded is a worrisome trend.” Remember the idea behind this is to benefit unity and the poor kids in North Tulsa so why didn't they invest their generosity there where those kids are? Maybe because it's questionable as to whether you can run an entertainment venue there which is a lot of what this is going to be with concerts, rentals, a restaurant and other food vendors etc. Kind of looks like it's costing the taxpayer's a lot to put a private corp. in control of a "public space" and allowing them to curtail the public's legal right to carry. Another interesting question, since it belongs to River Parks but is leased out who is responsible for liabilities where booze will be sold to people who might get into the rented boats or climb on stuff that looks like it might not be allowed in public parks or school playgrounds for safety/injury reasons? [/QUOTE]
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