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<blockquote data-quote="BigRed82" data-source="post: 1688101" data-attributes="member: 3048"><p>6. Whether you can conceal a handgun has more overall to do with the belt/holster/shirt-color you use than the size of the gun. Get a good carry belt. Don't skimp on the belt. Also, get a good holster. Even more than the belt, a good holster will make you forget you're even carrying your sidearm. I prefer kydex holsters and am particularly partial to Raven Concealment's Phantom holster. There are many holsters out there to choose from, ranging from full kydex like the CTAC, RCS Phantom, and CCC Looper, to hybrids like the MTAC or Supertuck, to full leather like Del Fatti or Milt Sparks' VM2. Like I said, I personally prefer the lightweight and thinness of kydex, especially the RCS Phantom. Finally, dark colored and dark print shirts will go a long way in helping to conceal a handgun. </p><p></p><p>I'm 6'4" and 200lbs, and I used to decently conceal carry a G17 with a CCC Looper on a Beltman belt under a black polo. (but it slightly looked like I had a growth on my waist if you actually look for it.) I and any other observant person who conceal carries can recognize a waist bulge, which you'll get with any double stack unless you wear an oversized button up shirt or equivalent. If you are okay with dressing around your sidearm, then go with a full size. If you need to wear tucked in button up shirts, etc., a smaller single stack may be what you want.</p><p></p><p>If I could conceal carry a G17 with MY choice of clothing 24/7, I would do it. I can't. I am also not willing to wear baggy, oversized shirts everywhere. To resolve this problem, I bought the Kahr PM9 and Walther PPS for those occasions when I needed a smaller CCW. Both are great firearms. I eventually decided on keeping the PPS because it is closer to a Glock trigger, which is my preference. Upon using the PPS however, I have found some difficulties in switching back from the PPS's European mag release back to the American push button style. It has given me a slight amount of concern. I don't have any difficulty switching back the other way, so I am comfortable enough to keep it, but I think the PPS/PPQ would be a better system than say a PPS as primary and a G19 as intermittent replacement. For this reason, I would say that if you want to later get the PPQ, the PPS is hands down the CCW to buy right now. If you want to primarily carry a G19, the PPS may cause you to develop some muscle memory habits that could be against your interests should you later switch between it and a G19/17.</p><p></p><p>7. Once you get your handgun, don't worry about wasting time and money on expensive trigger modifications. I used to be a huge advocate for modifying Glock triggers and would argue with the guys who created BS arguments of impending lawsuits etc. The simple truth of the matter is that a $150 trigger won't make you a better shot. There are simple enough things that you can do for under $20-30 that can improve a trigger, but is only for shooter preference. I was just as accurate with a gritty, untouched stock trigger in my 2nd Gen G19 as I was with a $150 Glockworx Fulcrum trigger in a 3rd gen G19. Don't waste your time on extensive modifications. Focus your energy on learning sight picture and trigger control. </p><p></p><p>8. Buy good sights. My accuracy is more affected by the sights I have on a handgun than anything else. The value and quality of a good sight picture is less noticeable when you are just standing at a range slowly shooting a target with one eye closed. The advantage of good sights are better realized when you are trying to shoot at speed, eyes open, and shift from target to target. Aftermarket sights are always my first post-firearm expenditure. I absolutely love Ameriglo's new i-Dot sights for Glocks and M&Ps. I have been a Warren Tactical fan for years and still highly recommend them, as well as 10-8 sights, but my green front i-Dot sight is by far the easiest and fastest front sight I've ever used.</p><p></p><p>My apologies for the lack of brevity. I typed a lot more than I intended. Honestly, I wish that someone would have sat me down when I was first getting into handguns and convinced me to buy only a Glock 19, ignore all the rest, and take training classes and continue to just, train, train, train. I would be much better off both in proficiency and financially. So that's my learned lesson to you. Take it for what it is worth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BigRed82, post: 1688101, member: 3048"] 6. Whether you can conceal a handgun has more overall to do with the belt/holster/shirt-color you use than the size of the gun. Get a good carry belt. Don't skimp on the belt. Also, get a good holster. Even more than the belt, a good holster will make you forget you're even carrying your sidearm. I prefer kydex holsters and am particularly partial to Raven Concealment's Phantom holster. There are many holsters out there to choose from, ranging from full kydex like the CTAC, RCS Phantom, and CCC Looper, to hybrids like the MTAC or Supertuck, to full leather like Del Fatti or Milt Sparks' VM2. Like I said, I personally prefer the lightweight and thinness of kydex, especially the RCS Phantom. Finally, dark colored and dark print shirts will go a long way in helping to conceal a handgun. I'm 6'4" and 200lbs, and I used to decently conceal carry a G17 with a CCC Looper on a Beltman belt under a black polo. (but it slightly looked like I had a growth on my waist if you actually look for it.) I and any other observant person who conceal carries can recognize a waist bulge, which you'll get with any double stack unless you wear an oversized button up shirt or equivalent. If you are okay with dressing around your sidearm, then go with a full size. If you need to wear tucked in button up shirts, etc., a smaller single stack may be what you want. If I could conceal carry a G17 with MY choice of clothing 24/7, I would do it. I can't. I am also not willing to wear baggy, oversized shirts everywhere. To resolve this problem, I bought the Kahr PM9 and Walther PPS for those occasions when I needed a smaller CCW. Both are great firearms. I eventually decided on keeping the PPS because it is closer to a Glock trigger, which is my preference. Upon using the PPS however, I have found some difficulties in switching back from the PPS's European mag release back to the American push button style. It has given me a slight amount of concern. I don't have any difficulty switching back the other way, so I am comfortable enough to keep it, but I think the PPS/PPQ would be a better system than say a PPS as primary and a G19 as intermittent replacement. For this reason, I would say that if you want to later get the PPQ, the PPS is hands down the CCW to buy right now. If you want to primarily carry a G19, the PPS may cause you to develop some muscle memory habits that could be against your interests should you later switch between it and a G19/17. 7. Once you get your handgun, don't worry about wasting time and money on expensive trigger modifications. I used to be a huge advocate for modifying Glock triggers and would argue with the guys who created BS arguments of impending lawsuits etc. The simple truth of the matter is that a $150 trigger won't make you a better shot. There are simple enough things that you can do for under $20-30 that can improve a trigger, but is only for shooter preference. I was just as accurate with a gritty, untouched stock trigger in my 2nd Gen G19 as I was with a $150 Glockworx Fulcrum trigger in a 3rd gen G19. Don't waste your time on extensive modifications. Focus your energy on learning sight picture and trigger control. 8. Buy good sights. My accuracy is more affected by the sights I have on a handgun than anything else. The value and quality of a good sight picture is less noticeable when you are just standing at a range slowly shooting a target with one eye closed. The advantage of good sights are better realized when you are trying to shoot at speed, eyes open, and shift from target to target. Aftermarket sights are always my first post-firearm expenditure. I absolutely love Ameriglo's new i-Dot sights for Glocks and M&Ps. I have been a Warren Tactical fan for years and still highly recommend them, as well as 10-8 sights, but my green front i-Dot sight is by far the easiest and fastest front sight I've ever used. My apologies for the lack of brevity. I typed a lot more than I intended. Honestly, I wish that someone would have sat me down when I was first getting into handguns and convinced me to buy only a Glock 19, ignore all the rest, and take training classes and continue to just, train, train, train. I would be much better off both in proficiency and financially. So that's my learned lesson to you. Take it for what it is worth. [/QUOTE]
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