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<blockquote data-quote="abajaj11" data-source="post: 2073129" data-attributes="member: 3553"><p>Here is another link:</p><p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-violent-crime-capital-of-Europe.html" target="_blank">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-violent-crime-capital-of-Europe.html</a></p><p></p><p><u>Below is an excerpt from the article above:</u></p><p><u></u>" A breakdown of the statistics, which were compiled into league tables by the Conservatives, revealed that violent crime in the UK had increased from 652,974 offences in 1998 to more than 1.15 million crimes in 2007.</p><p></p><p>It means there are <strong>over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the UK, making it the most violent place in Europe.</strong></p><p></p><p>Austria is second, with a rate of 1,677 per 100,000 people, followed by Sweden, Belgium, Finland and Holland.</p><p></p><p>By comparison, <strong>America has an estimated rate of 466 violent crimes per 100,000 population.</strong></p><p></p><p>France recorded 324,765 violent crimes in 2007 &#8211; a 67 per cent increase in the past decade &#8211; at a rate of 504 per 100,000 population. </p><p>"</p><p></p><p>Another useful link is here:</p><p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html" target="_blank">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html</a></p><p></p><p>the table in the article, shown here (<a href="http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/02/article-1196941-05900DF7000005DC-677_468x636.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/02/article-1196941-05900DF7000005DC-677_468x636.jpg</a>) indicates the US has lower violent crime rates than all the countries in the table. </p><p></p><p> In terms of HOMICIDES per capita, there are many factors that affect the rate. These factors include the percentage of youth in the population, the overall cultural heterogeneity (diversity) of the population, what is defined as a homicide, how accurate the government numbers are, etc. </p><p></p><p>For example check out: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate</a></p><p>By my estimate, USA murder rate is about 4.5 per 100,000 and UK is about 2. If we cater for all other factors that may influence the murder rate and take them out of the estimation, we end up with very similar homicide rates in the USA and other developed countries. </p><p></p><p>It is true, that GUN murders are more in the USA, but that is only because guns are available. If guns were removed from the USA< the overall murder rate would not go down...rather it would go up...though the GUN MURDER rate would go down. </p><p></p><p>I don't think the victims care HOW they were killed. </p><p>Though some folks may say they'd rather be shot to death than beaten to death. </p><p><strong><u> Bottom line:</u></strong> </p><p>UK is 5 times more violent than USA (where violent means crimes like rapes and beatings that can put you in hospital and change your life).</p><p>Gun murder rate in USA is much higher than UK. </p><p>Murder rate in USA is about the same as UK, once other factors have been accounted for. </p><p></p><p>Hope this helps. </p><p><img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="abajaj11, post: 2073129, member: 3553"] Here is another link: [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-violent-crime-capital-of-Europe.html[/url] [U]Below is an excerpt from the article above: [/U]" A breakdown of the statistics, which were compiled into league tables by the Conservatives, revealed that violent crime in the UK had increased from 652,974 offences in 1998 to more than 1.15 million crimes in 2007. It means there are [B]over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the UK, making it the most violent place in Europe.[/B] Austria is second, with a rate of 1,677 per 100,000 people, followed by Sweden, Belgium, Finland and Holland. By comparison, [B]America has an estimated rate of 466 violent crimes per 100,000 population.[/B] France recorded 324,765 violent crimes in 2007 – a 67 per cent increase in the past decade – at a rate of 504 per 100,000 population. " Another useful link is here: [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html[/url] the table in the article, shown here ([url]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/02/article-1196941-05900DF7000005DC-677_468x636.jpg[/url]) indicates the US has lower violent crime rates than all the countries in the table. In terms of HOMICIDES per capita, there are many factors that affect the rate. These factors include the percentage of youth in the population, the overall cultural heterogeneity (diversity) of the population, what is defined as a homicide, how accurate the government numbers are, etc. For example check out: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[/url] By my estimate, USA murder rate is about 4.5 per 100,000 and UK is about 2. If we cater for all other factors that may influence the murder rate and take them out of the estimation, we end up with very similar homicide rates in the USA and other developed countries. It is true, that GUN murders are more in the USA, but that is only because guns are available. If guns were removed from the USA< the overall murder rate would not go down...rather it would go up...though the GUN MURDER rate would go down. I don't think the victims care HOW they were killed. Though some folks may say they'd rather be shot to death than beaten to death. [B][U] Bottom line:[/U][/B] UK is 5 times more violent than USA (where violent means crimes like rapes and beatings that can put you in hospital and change your life). Gun murder rate in USA is much higher than UK. Murder rate in USA is about the same as UK, once other factors have been accounted for. Hope this helps. :) [/QUOTE]
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