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<blockquote data-quote="carlstretch" data-source="post: 2502590" data-attributes="member: 19692"><p>Be afraid,.. be very afraid,... We don't know when,.. we don't know how,.. but you are in grave danger. It could happen any time!!</p><p></p><p>OMG,.. this kind of article should be criminal. It's a good thing we weren't drilling, fracking and injecting wastewater into wells from 1978 to 2008,... Oh yea,.. we've been doing ALL OF THOSE THINGS since the 1950's. </p><p></p><p>These things (earthquakes) can come in cycles (recent Oklahoma quakes) or (recent lack of earthquakes in Southern California) or they can just happen in random order. They are far from predictable and we do not have any way of predicting them. I agree that animals can sense them but not because they are psychic,... they can just hear different frequencies that we cannot. I grew up in Pasadena, CA and spent 18 years living with earthquakes from 1971 until 1989. It's amazing to me that it has been almost 15 years since a real earthquake in Los Angeles until this past March,.. when I was actually there with my kids in LA for Spring Break. There has also been oil and gas production in the LA basin since the 1940's,.. and they live over a very actice (active relative to us) fault system. How do you explain that?</p><p></p><p>I'll be the first to say that while I don't think the injection of water is causing the earthquakes here,... It very well could be but there is no proof of it. You notice that in these articles they never, ever give you any evidence on why they think injection water is causing the faults to be "lubricated."</p><p></p><p>We (the oil and gas industry) are held by very stringent rules to follow when it comes to water injection. Unless you specifically are injecting produced water for disposal,.. you MUST inject into the same formation that you are producing from. So you get a recycling effect from a waterflood. The vast majority of all produced water is injected like this. Pure disposal wells are by far the minority and even then,... the rules are more stringent than a waterflood injector. Are there wildly illegal operators that use the system and break the laws?? You bet. But that is probably less than 1% of all Oklahoma operators. The OK Corporation Commission runs a tight ship.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, these articles ruffle my feathers because they just never produce any evidence,. .ever. We're scientists and we like evidence,... Our lives revolve around it. So when another scientist writes an article and produces no evidence,.... it's not good. I earned my Master's degree by researching, gathering and evaluating evidence and I would have been laughed at by my professors and fellow students if I was to present an argument like they have.</p><p></p><p>It's been a long day at work and I'm going home to a cold beer.. THUNDER UP!!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="carlstretch, post: 2502590, member: 19692"] Be afraid,.. be very afraid,... We don't know when,.. we don't know how,.. but you are in grave danger. It could happen any time!! OMG,.. this kind of article should be criminal. It's a good thing we weren't drilling, fracking and injecting wastewater into wells from 1978 to 2008,... Oh yea,.. we've been doing ALL OF THOSE THINGS since the 1950's. These things (earthquakes) can come in cycles (recent Oklahoma quakes) or (recent lack of earthquakes in Southern California) or they can just happen in random order. They are far from predictable and we do not have any way of predicting them. I agree that animals can sense them but not because they are psychic,... they can just hear different frequencies that we cannot. I grew up in Pasadena, CA and spent 18 years living with earthquakes from 1971 until 1989. It's amazing to me that it has been almost 15 years since a real earthquake in Los Angeles until this past March,.. when I was actually there with my kids in LA for Spring Break. There has also been oil and gas production in the LA basin since the 1940's,.. and they live over a very actice (active relative to us) fault system. How do you explain that? I'll be the first to say that while I don't think the injection of water is causing the earthquakes here,... It very well could be but there is no proof of it. You notice that in these articles they never, ever give you any evidence on why they think injection water is causing the faults to be "lubricated." We (the oil and gas industry) are held by very stringent rules to follow when it comes to water injection. Unless you specifically are injecting produced water for disposal,.. you MUST inject into the same formation that you are producing from. So you get a recycling effect from a waterflood. The vast majority of all produced water is injected like this. Pure disposal wells are by far the minority and even then,... the rules are more stringent than a waterflood injector. Are there wildly illegal operators that use the system and break the laws?? You bet. But that is probably less than 1% of all Oklahoma operators. The OK Corporation Commission runs a tight ship. Anyway, these articles ruffle my feathers because they just never produce any evidence,. .ever. We're scientists and we like evidence,... Our lives revolve around it. So when another scientist writes an article and produces no evidence,.... it's not good. I earned my Master's degree by researching, gathering and evaluating evidence and I would have been laughed at by my professors and fellow students if I was to present an argument like they have. It's been a long day at work and I'm going home to a cold beer.. THUNDER UP!!!! [/QUOTE]
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