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<blockquote data-quote="busterheiney" data-source="post: 4205187" data-attributes="member: 52406"><p>Politics aside, here are my initial concerns.</p><p></p><p> The training the article mentions is absurdly insufficient. 4 hours of proficiency training for somebody who's not familiar with firearms is just enough to put them in the headspace of "I've got a gun, so everybody's safe now." mentality. There needs to be probably at least 5x that much just in shooting training. That's not even taking into consideration the "shoot/don't shoot" scenario training they need. Yeah, I get that it's going to be totally different than police or military training because of the school environment they'll be in, but that training exists. It needs to be implemented and frequent refresher training should be required as well. </p><p></p><p>Another concern is that at middle school and high school ages, you're just swimming in a soup of out of control hormones. Your brains aren't fully developed and able to fully rationalize during emotionally charged situations yet. Kids ain't dumb and they'll know there's now a firearm in their presence. Given the right situation, it won't be difficult to obtain that gun. Retention training has to be beat in the school employees head constantly. Coach Jones walking around with a pistol tucked in his waistband won't cut it. If this all comes to fruition, there will eventually be multiple cases of guns being drawn when it definitely wasn't necessary. Something like a brawl in the hallway between the cowboys and the stoners and Mrs. Beasley fires a shot in the air to get them to stop.</p><p></p><p>That being said, I'm a supporter of something like this if done properly. I think just the knowledge of there being guns on campus will dissuade some from extreme violence. Maybe. I also think most school shooters won't give 2 shits and believe that'll just make their spree more memorable...going down in a blaze of glory. </p><p></p><p>I'm probably overthinking it, though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="busterheiney, post: 4205187, member: 52406"] Politics aside, here are my initial concerns. The training the article mentions is absurdly insufficient. 4 hours of proficiency training for somebody who's not familiar with firearms is just enough to put them in the headspace of "I've got a gun, so everybody's safe now." mentality. There needs to be probably at least 5x that much just in shooting training. That's not even taking into consideration the "shoot/don't shoot" scenario training they need. Yeah, I get that it's going to be totally different than police or military training because of the school environment they'll be in, but that training exists. It needs to be implemented and frequent refresher training should be required as well. Another concern is that at middle school and high school ages, you're just swimming in a soup of out of control hormones. Your brains aren't fully developed and able to fully rationalize during emotionally charged situations yet. Kids ain't dumb and they'll know there's now a firearm in their presence. Given the right situation, it won't be difficult to obtain that gun. Retention training has to be beat in the school employees head constantly. Coach Jones walking around with a pistol tucked in his waistband won't cut it. If this all comes to fruition, there will eventually be multiple cases of guns being drawn when it definitely wasn't necessary. Something like a brawl in the hallway between the cowboys and the stoners and Mrs. Beasley fires a shot in the air to get them to stop. That being said, I'm a supporter of something like this if done properly. I think just the knowledge of there being guns on campus will dissuade some from extreme violence. Maybe. I also think most school shooters won't give 2 shits and believe that'll just make their spree more memorable...going down in a blaze of glory. I'm probably overthinking it, though. [/QUOTE]
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