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Varget

Discussion in 'Ammo & Reloading' started by okietool, Dec 30, 2019.

  1. okietool

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    Is Varget getting scarce?
     
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    Not in my house.
    But your question made me look and it seems like it may be scarce.
    ADI in Australia makes it and maybe new powders are taking up some time.

    I have not used much Varget lately as it is not happy in my guns when temps change. I went to IMR4064 which I used way before Varget with great success.
     
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    Aren't they having a bunch of fires in Australia because of the drought? Might have a little to do with it.
     
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    That's what I'm seeing too.
     
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    Thats what I heard they had a fire at the plant 2 or 3 months ago. Also possibly affecting H4350.
     
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    I thought Varget was supposed to be super temperature stable?
     
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    I though you were talking about the manufacture fire. It was much funnier that way.
     
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    Yea and that is what I had read also. It may very well be temp stable as in not changing velocity much but when I was shooting it in temps of 17 degrees then shoot it at 55 degrees my groups went to crap.
    I did not check velocity too see if it had changed because the bottom line is group size.

    Then work a load at 55 degrees and then 85+ it would go to crap again.
    4064 did not do that to me Using it in .243 .308, 30-06 and 30-30 and in the .223 I went with H4895.

    If I had to pick just a few powders it would be H4895, IMR4064, Red Dot and Bullseye.
    Red dot for my cast rifle loads.

    My testing was when the gun and ammo was the same temperature. Not ice chest cooled ammo.
    I will say a good load that will kill critters well with Varget in .308 was 41.5-42 gr in lapua cases with 165 game king Hollow point boat tail bullets lit by cci 200 2.680 OAL that load actually works in many .308 rifles and many different cases.
    You could actually make a scooper to throw weights close to that and not notice much difference.

    It will not win any matches it is not super fast either but it is a dandy load for killing deer.
    That is the only reason I have not sold off all my varget. That one load.
     
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    Good information swampratt thanks.
     
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    IMR 8208 XBR is supposed to give reliable consistency under a broad range of conditions.
    I'll return with the results of my field tests later this year.
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