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Virginia man suffers ‘rare’ severe reaction to COVID-19 vaccine

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let's dive in the meat of the matter concerning unknown long term side effect for experimental mRNA "vaccines" and why vaccines for SARS and MERS have never been successful. key words are pathogenic priming and autoimmune disease.

decades of trying without success in animal trials for mRNA gene therapies. lab animals after mRNA jab would successfully generate desired antibodies. months later after being exposed to virus, trial animals would develop vaccine induced autoimmune disease, where the body would attack itself resulting in death.

Pathogenic priming likely contributes to serious and critical illness and mortality in COVID-19 via autoimmunity

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Homology between human and viral proteins is an established factor in viral- or vaccine-induced autoimmunity. Failure of SARS and MERS vaccines in animal trials involved pathogenesis consistent with an immunological priming that could involve autoimmunity in lung tissues due to previous exposure to the SARS and MERS spike protein. Exposure pathogenesis to SARS-CoV-2 in COVID-19 likely will lead to similar outcomes. Immunogenic peptides in viruses or bacteria that match human proteins are good candidates for pathogenic priming peptides (similar to the more diffuse idea of "immune enhancement").

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32292901/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7142689/pdf/main.pdf

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I got talked into getting the first one (Pfizer) more than two months ago and have not fully recovered yet. 24hr afterward tired, draggy, stiff sore all over, balance not quite right. My GF had no problems with the first one and and was on the edge of going to ER for a week after the second one with similar symptoms but much worse. Many of my friends have similar stories starting 24 or so hours after. Me, not going back for the 2nd one.
 

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I got talked into getting the first one (Pfizer) more than two months ago and have not fully recovered yet. 24hr afterward tired, draggy, stiff sore all over, balance not quite right. My GF had no problems with the first one and and was on the edge of going to ER for a week after the second one with similar symptoms but much worse. Many of my friends have similar stories starting 24 or so hours after. Me, not going back for the 2nd one.

sorry to hear about your bad reactions from Pfizer .. sure hope you recover!
be sure to turn into: https://vaers.hhs.gov/

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what I posted about pathogenic priming and autoimmune disease was dead on the money and on topic. supported with an article from NIH database.

pathogenic priming and autoimmune disease is the reason why no mRNA "vaccine" back then called gene therapy has ever passed animal trials. after two decades of trying for SARS and MERS vaccines without success.

these are established terms and related safety issues that have not been resolved still. and are among issues consistently raised by virologist and doctors.

Dr. Simone Gold talks about pathogenic priming and autoimmune disease in this video @ 48:15

Banned from YouTube: Dr. Simone Gold shares the truth about the COVID-19 vaccines


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So! Do we get the 2nd one or not.?

If it were me, I'd take the ~75% immunity from the first and call it good. The hundreds of reports of side effects seem to always come after the 2nd shot. Follow your instincts and do your own research.

Also, if it were me, I would DEFINITELY get a covid antibody test before I took any shot...if you were exposed and have some immunity then the cost benefit suggests abstain. Perhaps another consideration is your risk (age, chronic health conditions, etc...). Follow your gut.

I got talked into getting the first one (Pfizer) more than two months ago and have not fully recovered yet. 24hr afterward tired, draggy, stiff sore all over, balance not quite right. My GF had no problems with the first one and and was on the edge of going to ER for a week after the second one with similar symptoms but much worse. Many of my friends have similar stories starting 24 or so hours after. Me, not going back for the 2nd one.

Yeah, I find the most militant about vaccines are those that trusted and never questioned and got hurt...Most of the so-called anti-vaxers were pro-vaxers before they or their kid took the wrong shot. So basically, the battle is between pro-vaxers and pro-vaxers who got hurt mainly...I'm sry for you bro...I hope it all works out and I appreciate your passion by your posts. be sure to checkout Dr. tenpenny's interviews too.

https://www.banned.video/watch?id=60428ea73282f82eeac060b0
 
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If it were me, I'd take the ~75% immunity from the first and call it good. The hundreds of reports of side effects seem to always come after the 2nd shot. Follow your instincts and do your own research.

Also, if it were me, I would DEFINITELY get a covid antibody test before I took any shot...if you were exposed and have some immunity then the cost benefit suggests abstain. Perhaps another consideration is your risk (age, chronic health conditions, etc...). Follow your gut.
The percentage of people having major side effects is so low it's almost incalculable. One person gets a rash and the media lights up. Meanwhile millions upon millions have had zero to light reactions. Wife and I have had both with a sore arm for a couple of days.
People get reactions from every vaccine known to humans to this day. I'm not sure I'd take on the responsibility to give medical advice on a public forum to not take the second shot, but everybody has to recognize their own risk factor and act accordingly.
 

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The percentage of people having major side effects is so low it's almost incalculable. One person gets a rash and the media lights up. Meanwhile millions upon millions have had zero to light reactions. Wife and I have had both with a sore arm for a couple of days.
People get reactions from every vaccine known to humans to this day. I'm not sure I'd take on the responsibility to give medical advice on a public forum to not take the second shot, but everybody has to recognize their own risk factor and act accordingly.

I clearly told him what I would do if it were me. I am glad your experience was good...I would be curious to get a report 5yrs from now.
 

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I clearly told him what I would do if it were me. I am glad your experience was good...I would be curious to get a report 5yrs from now.
The one with the arm growing out of my forehead like anti's are expecting?
I'll be here God willing and give that report along with all the other vaccines I've taken and will take until then.
 

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What is pathogenic priming?
January 27, 2021
https://covidcalltohumanity.org/2021/01/27/what-is-pathogenic-priming/

In this 12-minute video published by BeforeItsNews, Prof. Dolores Cahill explains the results of a 2012 study which looks at the effects of vaccines for SARS-CoV-1. The study entitled Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccine Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus, showed that coronavirus vaccines can lead to antibody dependent response (also known by several terms such as cytokine storm, immuno-priming, immuno-super priming or pathogenic priming) and must be used with caution on humans. Prof. Cahill says that this is the reason why no coronavirus vaccines has been licensed for human use.

Prof. Cahill goes on to explain how the mRNA vaccine worsens the cytokine storm, and could lead into deaths months after the experimental vaccines have been rolled out. She also explains that autopsies on decedents who have been inoculated have to be done in order to rule out the possibility of a cytokine storm.
 
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