Warning: Overpressure 9mm

[Dave70968]

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/10/01/winchester-9mm-nato-bulk-ammo-bad-pistol/

After the recent ammo drought, it’s good to see relatively cheap bulk pistol ammo returning to store shelves. But ammo buyers need to be aware that not everything is as it seems and not all ammo is created equal.

I found this Winchester “150 Round Value Pack” of 9mm NATO 124 gr ammo for sale at my local Gander Mountain for $49.99 recently. That works out to about $16.66 per 50, which is not bad for reloadable brass cased 9mm in the current market.

That is, until you read the (very) fine print on the bottom of the box that says, “These cartridges are loaded to military velocity and pressure; average pressure is 10% to 15% higher than industry standard pressure for 9mm Luger.”

This is obviously part of some military contract overrun packaged in bulk as cheap plinking ammo. The problem is the “10% to 15%” higher pressure puts this square in the 9mm +P category. The Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturer’s Institute (SAAMI) actually goes as far as to list 9mm NATO as being “unsafe” for firearms chambered in the standard 9mm Luger caliber.

While the SAAMI recommendation may be overly cautious, the reality is that 9mm NATO spec ammo should only be shot through those pistols rated for 9mm +P ammo. While this does include most modern pistol designs, such as those made by GLOCK, HK, Sig Sauer, etc., there are modern pistols not rated for these higher pressures and a large number of older pistols out there that are not +P rated.

And, even if shooting higher pressure ammo through any particular pistol is safe, it does increase the wear and tear on the pistol’s components.

While I’m happy to see bulk 9mm ammo returning to the shelves, Winchester should have labelled these 9mm NATO boxes more clearly so shooters would have a better understanding of what they are buying.

 

[soonerwings]

Just another reason that .45 ACP is better than 9mm. Bwahaha.

 

[CHenry]

My browning could eat it all day long.

 

[leemozoid]

If your 9mm can't handle +P then you need a new 9mm!

 

[Dave70968]

If your 9mm can't handle +P then you need a new 9mm!

...or might be shooting a classic. I'd hate to see somebody blow up an old Luger or P-38.

 

[CHenry]

Again, i you have a POS 9, dont use +p rounds.

 

[JCW355]

I would say you are correct that most won't read the small print or know a nato headstamp. Glock for the win.

 

[Biggsly]

Glock for the win.

Yep....

 

[Nraman]

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/10/01/winchester-9mm-nato-bulk-ammo-bad-pistol/

It is NATO ammo. That's what the military is using. It is normal pressure ammo as originally designed, before the SAAMI and US pistol manufacturers decided to download it and make it useless.
You need hot ammo if you want good reliable operation in a Glock and most likely any European designed pistol.
A Glock will handle anything because it was designed according to NATO and CIP standards, not the anemic SAAMI which is strictly a US invention.
The reason I gave up on S&W 9mm pistols long time ago.

 

[Poke78]

Again, i you have a POS 9, dont use +p rounds.

To put finer point on it, if your 9mm firearm says it was made in "City of Industry, CA", rest assured you have a POS and should proceed accordingly.