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<blockquote data-quote="ExSniper" data-source="post: 1866836" data-attributes="member: 1387"><p>I am interested in hearing other opinions about this training. Seems to be VERY dogmatic about certain issues that I have trouble with. As already pointed out, why train people to throw their hands up as they step off-line, then access your handgun??? I know lots of folks that don't startle for @#$t and they do not throw their hands up when confronted with a deadly threat, they move and fight by the best means available. Why have someone practice throwing both hands up to defend the head and then step offline and draw a pistol? </p><p>Also his rejection of safety rules as ignorant because of the use of ALWAYS and NEVER. I understand you unload your gun before you clean it and you unload your gun before you check it in baggage for a flight but that does not mean while you are handling that weapon during cleaning you should point it at parts of your body or anyone elses. The four simple rules as taught by myriad instructors (and required part of the OK SDA training) have kept lots of folks safe for many years by applying these principles of safe gun handling.</p><p>I love modern striker fired weapons. I carry an XDM 9mm on duty and a Glock 19 as back-up or concealed carry. I carry a firearm any time I am awake and still choose to carry my 1911 sometimes. I am confident in my ability to get the job done with a 9mm but some days I just like the 1911 and its .45 ACP round. To say that the 1911 is no longer a viable handgun is ridiculous. In fact, I have a Single Action Army .45 Colt that is still quite viable for self defense even with its limited capacity. It would not be my first choice but it is still quite effective and as fast for the first shot as any handgun I can think of.</p><p>I like getting instruction from a lot of different sources but whenever ANY instructor says "so and so" is outdated and my way is better, they need to show empirical evidence to support that claim. Just because you say so and poke fun at those who have blazed the trail in self defense instruction does not make your way right nor theirs wrong. A lot of folks are alive today and fighting on with 1911s or revolvers and training that come straight from Sykes, Fairbairn, Applegate, Cooper, Shaw, Chapman, Smith, and Ayoob. Surely everything they taught or teach is outdated, outmoded, or superceded.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ExSniper, post: 1866836, member: 1387"] I am interested in hearing other opinions about this training. Seems to be VERY dogmatic about certain issues that I have trouble with. As already pointed out, why train people to throw their hands up as they step off-line, then access your handgun??? I know lots of folks that don't startle for @#$t and they do not throw their hands up when confronted with a deadly threat, they move and fight by the best means available. Why have someone practice throwing both hands up to defend the head and then step offline and draw a pistol? Also his rejection of safety rules as ignorant because of the use of ALWAYS and NEVER. I understand you unload your gun before you clean it and you unload your gun before you check it in baggage for a flight but that does not mean while you are handling that weapon during cleaning you should point it at parts of your body or anyone elses. The four simple rules as taught by myriad instructors (and required part of the OK SDA training) have kept lots of folks safe for many years by applying these principles of safe gun handling. I love modern striker fired weapons. I carry an XDM 9mm on duty and a Glock 19 as back-up or concealed carry. I carry a firearm any time I am awake and still choose to carry my 1911 sometimes. I am confident in my ability to get the job done with a 9mm but some days I just like the 1911 and its .45 ACP round. To say that the 1911 is no longer a viable handgun is ridiculous. In fact, I have a Single Action Army .45 Colt that is still quite viable for self defense even with its limited capacity. It would not be my first choice but it is still quite effective and as fast for the first shot as any handgun I can think of. I like getting instruction from a lot of different sources but whenever ANY instructor says "so and so" is outdated and my way is better, they need to show empirical evidence to support that claim. Just because you say so and poke fun at those who have blazed the trail in self defense instruction does not make your way right nor theirs wrong. A lot of folks are alive today and fighting on with 1911s or revolvers and training that come straight from Sykes, Fairbairn, Applegate, Cooper, Shaw, Chapman, Smith, and Ayoob. Surely everything they taught or teach is outdated, outmoded, or superceded. [/QUOTE]
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