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<blockquote data-quote="Koshinn" data-source="post: 1579361" data-attributes="member: 18314"><p>Here's a more realistic scenario:</p><p>"8 drug crazed ex-Marines with ptsd and razor sharp K-Bars (or other similar bad dudes) are outside your bedroom door. They will come in through the door and try to take your head off in <strong>0.5 second</strong> increments. You have a choice between two handguns, lets say a 9mm and a .45. The 9mm has <strong>16 rounds</strong> (such as a Beretta 92FS/M9) and the .45 has <strong>8 rounds</strong> (such as a 1911). You have practiced with both and shoot each equally well. You choose."</p><p></p><p>I'll take the 9mm, thank you very much. I'd rather not have to be in a situation in which I need to hit each bad guy with exactly 1 round in a vital location. If I missed just one, one of the drug crazed ex-marines will kill me. If I had a 9mm, I'd get two chances at each. And really, you expect 8 drug crazed ex-Marines to charge in one at a time? Sober Marines would charge you as a group. Drug crazed ex-Marines would probably clog the door.</p><p></p><p>The 9mm vs .45 argument is not really about velocity vs mass. It's about a 9mm hole vs a 11.5mm hole and the extra ammunition and faster follow up shots that the 9mm round has to make up for the smaller diameter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Koshinn, post: 1579361, member: 18314"] Here's a more realistic scenario: "8 drug crazed ex-Marines with ptsd and razor sharp K-Bars (or other similar bad dudes) are outside your bedroom door. They will come in through the door and try to take your head off in [B]0.5 second[/B] increments. You have a choice between two handguns, lets say a 9mm and a .45. The 9mm has [B]16 rounds[/B] (such as a Beretta 92FS/M9) and the .45 has [B]8 rounds[/B] (such as a 1911). You have practiced with both and shoot each equally well. You choose." I'll take the 9mm, thank you very much. I'd rather not have to be in a situation in which I need to hit each bad guy with exactly 1 round in a vital location. If I missed just one, one of the drug crazed ex-marines will kill me. If I had a 9mm, I'd get two chances at each. And really, you expect 8 drug crazed ex-Marines to charge in one at a time? Sober Marines would charge you as a group. Drug crazed ex-Marines would probably clog the door. The 9mm vs .45 argument is not really about velocity vs mass. It's about a 9mm hole vs a 11.5mm hole and the extra ammunition and faster follow up shots that the 9mm round has to make up for the smaller diameter. [/QUOTE]
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