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<blockquote data-quote="jsl_pt" data-source="post: 1554664" data-attributes="member: 19194"><p>I know I'm new here and all, but I had to chime in on this, no ill intent meant, just stating my observations/opinion.</p><p></p><p>I just want to make the point that cops frequently do not follow any of the routine traffic ordinances. Some do, but the majority that I have seen do not. At least 15 cops live in my neighborhood, and probably 10-12 of them run the stop sign into the neighborhood daily, on average, in their patrol cars as well as private vehicles. I drive for my work all day, and I see the same thing all day long pertaining to cops not following traffic laws. I'm not saying I am perfect by ANY MEANS, and don't expect the cops to be either, but just don't want to agree with the assumption that cops never commit the same traffic violations that they use as an excuse to pull people over for "breaking the law". As you mention if you commit the examples you give you are not technically a law abiding citizen at that time, the same goes for the cops that do this on a daily basis. In my opinion, it doesn't speak one way or the other as to the person's true character based on minor traffic violations and cops should not automatically take away a persons weapon during a traffic stop because he broke the law of going 5MPH over or had a broken tail light and was "not a law abiding citizen."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jsl_pt, post: 1554664, member: 19194"] I know I'm new here and all, but I had to chime in on this, no ill intent meant, just stating my observations/opinion. I just want to make the point that cops frequently do not follow any of the routine traffic ordinances. Some do, but the majority that I have seen do not. At least 15 cops live in my neighborhood, and probably 10-12 of them run the stop sign into the neighborhood daily, on average, in their patrol cars as well as private vehicles. I drive for my work all day, and I see the same thing all day long pertaining to cops not following traffic laws. I'm not saying I am perfect by ANY MEANS, and don't expect the cops to be either, but just don't want to agree with the assumption that cops never commit the same traffic violations that they use as an excuse to pull people over for "breaking the law". As you mention if you commit the examples you give you are not technically a law abiding citizen at that time, the same goes for the cops that do this on a daily basis. In my opinion, it doesn't speak one way or the other as to the person's true character based on minor traffic violations and cops should not automatically take away a persons weapon during a traffic stop because he broke the law of going 5MPH over or had a broken tail light and was "not a law abiding citizen." [/QUOTE]
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