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<blockquote data-quote="Boehlertaught" data-source="post: 2137053" data-attributes="member: 14520"><p>I couldn't tell by this statement whether you are saying you are a Catholic or not. It sounded like you were. The position of Pope was created by Christ Himself when He told Peter he was the rock upon which He would build His church and that He would give Peter the keys to the kingdom of Heaven (the symbolism behind the keys in papal emblems). I would dare not say that if Christ saw the need for a Shepard for his Church, that it has "outlived its usefulness". That's a highly arrogant assumption for you to make.</p><p></p><p>Yes, I am Catholic. I actually chose to be Catholic...not a cradle Catholic a convert.</p><p>Is the Pope the shepard for all Christians? If your answer is yes; why do all of the other Christian faiths exist? I'm not tying to be annoying I really want to know. I attended a lot of other Christian churches (various Baptist & Methodist) before taking the classes to become Catholic. I don't remember any of them "following the Pope." Many of the other Christian faiths don't have the regimented lifestyle stance that Catholicism has. Not that what any Christian church does is right or wrong they are just different. The ritualistic nature of Catholic mass is also not been observed by me in the other Christian church services. The stoic boring, constantly consistant nature of the Catholic mass has the opportuntity to breed passive observers rather than nuture active particpants in the church. Years ago, I challenged Father Eichoff to change the order of the mass to wake folks up...he laughed and said he would never do it. Not because it would violate some Catholic tort but because he did not want to shock the flock. Most Catholics I've ever met have a very close minded, laser focused on Catholicism opinion about life. I haven't noticed other Catholics commenting openly about other Christian faiths but I have been confronted by folks from other churches, mainly Baptist and the charismatic churches, about Catholicism. Many of these folks don't even think Catholics are Christians...what the hell is up with that? I'll still not back off of my opinion that the Pope or any other person needs to your intermediary to God. Certainly I know this goes against Catholic beliefs but I know it is difficult to near impossible for anyone to completely agree with everything their church says. We're human we have to have differnces. If we did not have differences of opinions there would not be all the differenct faiths within Christianity...we would all be one church.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Boehlertaught, post: 2137053, member: 14520"] I couldn't tell by this statement whether you are saying you are a Catholic or not. It sounded like you were. The position of Pope was created by Christ Himself when He told Peter he was the rock upon which He would build His church and that He would give Peter the keys to the kingdom of Heaven (the symbolism behind the keys in papal emblems). I would dare not say that if Christ saw the need for a Shepard for his Church, that it has "outlived its usefulness". That's a highly arrogant assumption for you to make. Yes, I am Catholic. I actually chose to be Catholic...not a cradle Catholic a convert. Is the Pope the shepard for all Christians? If your answer is yes; why do all of the other Christian faiths exist? I'm not tying to be annoying I really want to know. I attended a lot of other Christian churches (various Baptist & Methodist) before taking the classes to become Catholic. I don't remember any of them "following the Pope." Many of the other Christian faiths don't have the regimented lifestyle stance that Catholicism has. Not that what any Christian church does is right or wrong they are just different. The ritualistic nature of Catholic mass is also not been observed by me in the other Christian church services. The stoic boring, constantly consistant nature of the Catholic mass has the opportuntity to breed passive observers rather than nuture active particpants in the church. Years ago, I challenged Father Eichoff to change the order of the mass to wake folks up...he laughed and said he would never do it. Not because it would violate some Catholic tort but because he did not want to shock the flock. Most Catholics I've ever met have a very close minded, laser focused on Catholicism opinion about life. I haven't noticed other Catholics commenting openly about other Christian faiths but I have been confronted by folks from other churches, mainly Baptist and the charismatic churches, about Catholicism. Many of these folks don't even think Catholics are Christians...what the hell is up with that? I'll still not back off of my opinion that the Pope or any other person needs to your intermediary to God. Certainly I know this goes against Catholic beliefs but I know it is difficult to near impossible for anyone to completely agree with everything their church says. We're human we have to have differnces. If we did not have differences of opinions there would not be all the differenct faiths within Christianity...we would all be one church. [/QUOTE]
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