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<blockquote data-quote="Rez Exelon" data-source="post: 3567819" data-attributes="member: 5800"><p>There's several key points missing in your second paragraph that are pretty pervasive and systemic. In Ferguson, MO for instance, a higher percentage of the black population had a record, tickets, run ins with the law? Why? Were they as a people different? IIRC the review done there indicated that more enforcement was sent there, more tickets issued there, more people were stopped there. So naturally the incidence of people getting charged, ticketed, etc will be higher. If the same level of enforcement was targeted and applied in the white areas with no biases, I bet the outcome would be the same. For instance when I lived in Dallas, I knew people that got pulled over/harassed all the time because of the neighborhood they were in. But I had friends that could literally smoke a joint in front of the cops in the "good part of town" and get waved at. Different areas, different enforcement, different outcomes, and different permanent records. </p><p></p><p>As far the LEO's having a hard job --- there's lot of hard jobs out there. On the other hand, there's not a lot of hard jobs where people can kill other humans and likely walk and be protected by unions, QI and public perception being on their side. Again, hard job, but a high standard to bear. We could go back to the question "how can we make the job easier?" That could get into the "defund the police" argument. Like, seriously, why not have trained people go respond to mental health calls? I'm personally sick and tired of autistic people getting shot by cops for instance. Why not have social workers go deal with homeless folks? What else --- maybe instead of needing to take someone in RIGHT NOW and "tazing" them to death with a bullet, we look at capturing under better circumstances? Tail them, wait for backup, etc. </p><p></p><p>Are those perfect answers? No. I'm not an authority on the figure, but just a dude thinking of ways that might be better than what we've got. But until the bootlickers realize that the feet inside those are connected to real humans rather than perfect gods, things won't change. What will change is that eventually the protests against violence (that are met usually with extraordinary violence), will descend into war soon enough if things don't actually start changing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rez Exelon, post: 3567819, member: 5800"] There's several key points missing in your second paragraph that are pretty pervasive and systemic. In Ferguson, MO for instance, a higher percentage of the black population had a record, tickets, run ins with the law? Why? Were they as a people different? IIRC the review done there indicated that more enforcement was sent there, more tickets issued there, more people were stopped there. So naturally the incidence of people getting charged, ticketed, etc will be higher. If the same level of enforcement was targeted and applied in the white areas with no biases, I bet the outcome would be the same. For instance when I lived in Dallas, I knew people that got pulled over/harassed all the time because of the neighborhood they were in. But I had friends that could literally smoke a joint in front of the cops in the "good part of town" and get waved at. Different areas, different enforcement, different outcomes, and different permanent records. As far the LEO's having a hard job --- there's lot of hard jobs out there. On the other hand, there's not a lot of hard jobs where people can kill other humans and likely walk and be protected by unions, QI and public perception being on their side. Again, hard job, but a high standard to bear. We could go back to the question "how can we make the job easier?" That could get into the "defund the police" argument. Like, seriously, why not have trained people go respond to mental health calls? I'm personally sick and tired of autistic people getting shot by cops for instance. Why not have social workers go deal with homeless folks? What else --- maybe instead of needing to take someone in RIGHT NOW and "tazing" them to death with a bullet, we look at capturing under better circumstances? Tail them, wait for backup, etc. Are those perfect answers? No. I'm not an authority on the figure, but just a dude thinking of ways that might be better than what we've got. But until the bootlickers realize that the feet inside those are connected to real humans rather than perfect gods, things won't change. What will change is that eventually the protests against violence (that are met usually with extraordinary violence), will descend into war soon enough if things don't actually start changing. [/QUOTE]
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