Saw this on Reddit. A Redditor commented this on a SG Ammo ammo deal:
“Don't forget how in every email news letter there was that "I'm making less than $5" or "loosing money with shipping to sell at this price..." spiel while prices were at 4-5 times higher than what it cost pre cov-panic. Even after the market finally broke and was dropping 10+cents per round he held out longer for all it was worth. I get he had some inventory he had paid more for but he also raised the prices on plenty of stock he bought back when it was cheap and sold for ""market value"".
Remember his selling Russian ammo that he had drop the price and admitted in the email newsletter that "he bought to much planning to flip for way more but so did so many other dealers, so he was letting it go instead of waiting. In short he didn't get that big import ban paycheck he thought was coming. Actually their imports were still coming in for few years before sanctions fully hit. Orders in place would be allowed in.
So people have legit grudge about his " poor me" & "I'm going broke here....", he is just not making enough extra profit to keep buying a 2nd new bass boat every year anymore. Like what the worse that happens? They're going to mock him at the boat ramps with having last years fish color scheme on the hull....
Those lies just pushed Sam the guy who owns SGAmmo(who used to be one of the few good guys) into that "Sweaty Ben" of Classic Arms used car salesman crap behavior category. "Last batch of the caliber we're able to import", "Prices were so low we couldn't afford to replace it."... To guess what is there next week, um last batch of Mosins ever....
That's the part of this that makes it offensive ********.
What pissed people off more about SGAmmo, is before ""he got on high on his own stash"" from covid gouging. Sam used to be the place to buy ammo. He might not have be the lowest but you got ammo fast, doubled boxed and the little bit you didn't save was worth supporting a man/business that was one of the good guys... Plus he chronograph'ed the various shipments ammo and showed pictures of the cartridge case broken down showing the powder type and shape, with videos of each shot in groups from different length barrels. So you know what you were getting and what the performance would actual be. That was solid information and wasn't on any other ammo dealer website.
You could also buy a case(s) of hunting ammo(prepper or Z-Day Apocalypse or I likes to shoot guns I own dammit) and not be charged a special order with the LGS wanting more than normally because that's a whole case man. Note a Boxed case of hunting caliber ammo is only 200 rds, with 10 of the 20rd boxes in it. So buying several costs but you had price break and the actual availability. Buying 10-20+ boxes off the store shelf wasn't likely for many calibers, even hitting several shops. It was nice to be able to buy a case or a few , so you could shoot during the year and not beholden to the once a year when is it restocked on the shelves from ammo manufactures cycle.
SGAmmo got a bit big for their britches with Covid ****, and there is some fairness in "they might as well make that money flippers were going to charge for their ammo", but damn that meant many many people just couldn't afford to go shooting recreationaly anymore.
That hurt us badly for 2A support because the less people "Plinking" , the less people are think about firearms and paying attention to the news on them, and with prices so high they couldn't afford to bring newbie out from the other side and pay for them to blast all day.
Looking at numerous people's account screen caps you'll see years of spending thousands with him then nothing for this stupid gouging. That is people who had to stop enjoying shooting meanwhile he made mad profits. Loyal customers who were **** upon for greed.”
“Don't forget how in every email news letter there was that "I'm making less than $5" or "loosing money with shipping to sell at this price..." spiel while prices were at 4-5 times higher than what it cost pre cov-panic. Even after the market finally broke and was dropping 10+cents per round he held out longer for all it was worth. I get he had some inventory he had paid more for but he also raised the prices on plenty of stock he bought back when it was cheap and sold for ""market value"".
Remember his selling Russian ammo that he had drop the price and admitted in the email newsletter that "he bought to much planning to flip for way more but so did so many other dealers, so he was letting it go instead of waiting. In short he didn't get that big import ban paycheck he thought was coming. Actually their imports were still coming in for few years before sanctions fully hit. Orders in place would be allowed in.
So people have legit grudge about his " poor me" & "I'm going broke here....", he is just not making enough extra profit to keep buying a 2nd new bass boat every year anymore. Like what the worse that happens? They're going to mock him at the boat ramps with having last years fish color scheme on the hull....
Those lies just pushed Sam the guy who owns SGAmmo(who used to be one of the few good guys) into that "Sweaty Ben" of Classic Arms used car salesman crap behavior category. "Last batch of the caliber we're able to import", "Prices were so low we couldn't afford to replace it."... To guess what is there next week, um last batch of Mosins ever....
That's the part of this that makes it offensive ********.
What pissed people off more about SGAmmo, is before ""he got on high on his own stash"" from covid gouging. Sam used to be the place to buy ammo. He might not have be the lowest but you got ammo fast, doubled boxed and the little bit you didn't save was worth supporting a man/business that was one of the good guys... Plus he chronograph'ed the various shipments ammo and showed pictures of the cartridge case broken down showing the powder type and shape, with videos of each shot in groups from different length barrels. So you know what you were getting and what the performance would actual be. That was solid information and wasn't on any other ammo dealer website.
You could also buy a case(s) of hunting ammo(prepper or Z-Day Apocalypse or I likes to shoot guns I own dammit) and not be charged a special order with the LGS wanting more than normally because that's a whole case man. Note a Boxed case of hunting caliber ammo is only 200 rds, with 10 of the 20rd boxes in it. So buying several costs but you had price break and the actual availability. Buying 10-20+ boxes off the store shelf wasn't likely for many calibers, even hitting several shops. It was nice to be able to buy a case or a few , so you could shoot during the year and not beholden to the once a year when is it restocked on the shelves from ammo manufactures cycle.
SGAmmo got a bit big for their britches with Covid ****, and there is some fairness in "they might as well make that money flippers were going to charge for their ammo", but damn that meant many many people just couldn't afford to go shooting recreationaly anymore.
That hurt us badly for 2A support because the less people "Plinking" , the less people are think about firearms and paying attention to the news on them, and with prices so high they couldn't afford to bring newbie out from the other side and pay for them to blast all day.
Looking at numerous people's account screen caps you'll see years of spending thousands with him then nothing for this stupid gouging. That is people who had to stop enjoying shooting meanwhile he made mad profits. Loyal customers who were **** upon for greed.”
