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<blockquote data-quote="JD8" data-source="post: 3145241" data-attributes="member: 24"><p>It takes at least 10,000 times the amount of THC in a "joint" to become fatal. Which is why you don't see a prevalence of occurrences, or even really... documented cases. </p><p></p><p>In all honestly though, I don't think you read the report or you are conveniently leaving out some significant findings in terms of overdose deaths. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://nationalacademies.org/hmd/Reports/2017/health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids.aspx" target="_blank">http://nationalacademies.org/hmd/Reports/2017/health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids.aspx</a></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #000000"><em><strong>There is no or insufficient evidence to support or refute a statistical association between cannabis use and:</strong></em></span></span></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #0000b3"> </span></span></strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #0000b3">• All-cause mortality (self-reported cannabis use) (9-1)</span></span></strong></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #0000b3"> </span></span></strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #0000b3">• Occupational accidents or injuries (general, non-medical cannabis use) (9-2)</span></span></strong></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #0000b3"> </span></span></strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #0000b3">• Death due to cannabis overdose (9-4a)</span></span></strong></em></p><p></p><p>Some fun facts from your study pertaining to what has been shown to be beneficial. This is not a "Cure" claim.... in which nobody here claimed it to be that I'm aware of. However, these ailments are significant. </p><p></p><p><strong><em><span style="font-size: 18px">There is conclusive or substantial evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are effective:</span></em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><em> </em></strong></p><p><strong><em><span style="color: #0059b3">• For the treatment for chronic pain in adults (cannabis) (4-1)</span></em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><em><span style="color: #0059b3"> </span></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><span style="color: #0059b3">• Antiemetics in the treatment of chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting (oral cannabinoids) (4-3)</span></em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><em><span style="color: #0059b3"> </span></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><span style="color: #0059b3">• For improving patient-reported multiple sclerosis spasticity symptoms (oral cannabinoids) (4-7a)</span></em></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><span style="font-size: 18px">There is moderate evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are effective for:</span></em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><em> </em></strong></p><p><strong><em><span style="color: #0059b3">• Improving short-term sleep outcomes in individuals with sleep disturbance associated with obstructive sleep apnea</span></em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><em><span style="color: #0059b3"> </span></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><span style="color: #0059b3">syndrome, fibromyalgia, chronic pain, and multiple sclerosis (cannabinoids, primarily nabiximols) (4-19)</span></em></strong></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><em><span style="font-size: 18px">There is limited evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are effective for:</span></em></strong></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"><em><strong>• Increasing appetite and decreasing weight loss associated with HIV/AIDS (cannabis and oral cannabinoids) (4-4a)</strong></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #0000b3"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"><em><strong>• Improving clinician-measured multiple sclerosis spasticity symptoms (oral cannabinoids) (4-7a)</strong></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #0000b3"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"><em><strong>• Improving symptoms of Tourette syndrome (THC capsules) (4-8)</strong></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #0000b3"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"><em><strong>• Improving anxiety symptoms, as assessed by a public speaking test, in individuals with social anxiety disorders (cannabidiol)</strong></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #0000b3"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"><em><strong>(4-17)</strong></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #0000b3"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"><em><strong>• Improving symptoms of posttraumatic stress disorder (nabilone; one single, small fair-quality trial) (4-20)</strong></em></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>Granted all of the report isn't all pro MJ. It's a pretty good report on a superficial level but it would be nice to see the whole thing.... but I'm not paying $65 for it. <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JD8, post: 3145241, member: 24"] It takes at least 10,000 times the amount of THC in a "joint" to become fatal. Which is why you don't see a prevalence of occurrences, or even really... documented cases. In all honestly though, I don't think you read the report or you are conveniently leaving out some significant findings in terms of overdose deaths. [URL]http://nationalacademies.org/hmd/Reports/2017/health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids.aspx[/URL] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#000000][I][B]There is no or insufficient evidence to support or refute a statistical association between cannabis use and:[/B][/I][/COLOR][/SIZE] [I] [B][SIZE=5][COLOR=#0000b3] • All-cause mortality (self-reported cannabis use) (9-1)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=5][COLOR=#0000b3] • Occupational accidents or injuries (general, non-medical cannabis use) (9-2)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=5][COLOR=#0000b3] • Death due to cannabis overdose (9-4a)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/I] [B][I][/I][/B] Some fun facts from your study pertaining to what has been shown to be beneficial. This is not a "Cure" claim.... in which nobody here claimed it to be that I'm aware of. However, these ailments are significant. [B][I][SIZE=5]There is conclusive or substantial evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are effective:[/SIZE][/I] [I] [COLOR=#0059b3]• For the treatment for chronic pain in adults (cannabis) (4-1)[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=#0059b3] • Antiemetics in the treatment of chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting (oral cannabinoids) (4-3)[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=#0059b3] • For improving patient-reported multiple sclerosis spasticity symptoms (oral cannabinoids) (4-7a)[/COLOR][/I][/B] [B][I] [SIZE=5]There is moderate evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are effective for:[/SIZE][/I] [I][COLOR=#0080ff] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0059b3]• Improving short-term sleep outcomes in individuals with sleep disturbance associated with obstructive sleep apnea[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=#0059b3] syndrome, fibromyalgia, chronic pain, and multiple sclerosis (cannabinoids, primarily nabiximols) (4-19)[/COLOR] [/I][/B] [B][I][SIZE=5]There is limited evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are effective for:[/SIZE][/I][/B] [B] [/B] [COLOR=#0000b3][I][B]• Increasing appetite and decreasing weight loss associated with HIV/AIDS (cannabis and oral cannabinoids) (4-4a)[/B][/I] [I][B] [/B][/I] [I][B]• Improving clinician-measured multiple sclerosis spasticity symptoms (oral cannabinoids) (4-7a)[/B][/I] [I][B] [/B][/I] [I][B]• Improving symptoms of Tourette syndrome (THC capsules) (4-8)[/B][/I] [I][B] [/B][/I] [I][B]• Improving anxiety symptoms, as assessed by a public speaking test, in individuals with social anxiety disorders (cannabidiol)[/B][/I] [I][B] [/B][/I] [I][B](4-17)[/B][/I] [I][B] [/B][/I] [I][B]• Improving symptoms of posttraumatic stress disorder (nabilone; one single, small fair-quality trial) (4-20)[/B][/I][/COLOR] Granted all of the report isn't all pro MJ. It's a pretty good report on a superficial level but it would be nice to see the whole thing.... but I'm not paying $65 for it. :D [/QUOTE]
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