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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow" data-source="post: 1377842" data-attributes="member: 7123"><p>To my way of thinking....</p><p></p><p>In brown bear country, 4" 5-shot revolver in .45 Colt, .44 mag, .454 casull, or .480 Ruger (solely as a backup for the rifle in your hands, and/or OC spray). My preference would be .45 Colt with ammo in a stout "+P" config such as Buffalo Bore offerings. Shootable (reasonable recovery time), yet very powerful and penetrative. In fact, as far as what Iken said, well just look at the #1 item in my want to buy list from my sig line link to see whether I agree or not. Dang, now that I look at it, you really stole my thunder, Iken. Hey, great minds think alike... <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>In non-brown-bear-country, <em>SAME </em>.... <em>OR</em>, a semi-auto 10mm<em> .... OR</em>, lightweight 4" .357 Mag revolver.</p><p></p><p>So, for the sake of lightness, that means maybe a<strong> S&W Mountain Gun </strong>in .45 colt or .44 mag is about ideal, and as much as I dislike Glocks for a variety of reasons, something like a <strong>compact 10mm Glock </strong>is just about ideal for defense against feral dogs, feral pigs, mountain lions, wolves, and humans (crazy violent "woods entrepeneurs" of meth labs or pot fields) - and even black bears and alligators.** Light to carry a long ways. This is the ONLY reason I can think of to actually own a Glock. </p><p></p><p>That's theory...but in practice, the lighter the better if you're gonna carry it a lot. So whatever you'll actually carry, in whatever chambering that that's in. I've come to carry my 10mm Witness Steel or Taurus 24/7 OSS-DS in .45 acp in the woods if I think there may be trouble - mostly the Taurus because it's lighter. See, practice trumps theory when you actually have to pack it a ways. I need to look into whether the 24/7 longslide can handle .45 super with a stiffer recoil spring - I have some super brass. Then, if so, work up some loads and dedicate this to woods carry. It's light and 12 rounds of .45 super 230s is nothing to sneeze at - A hardcast 230 going over 1,000 from a super load would penetrate even the largest wild boar's gristle plate, even with a nice large destructive meplat. Could be a nice temp solution until I get my Redhawk. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>One thing to keep in mind is that with feral dogs and/or wolves, since they normally attack in packs, quantity of rounds (like a 10mm 2-stack semi-auto) can be more important than the power of each round (like a 5-shot revolver). Ditto for violent human predators. But for a bear, mountain lion, or feral pig - single attacker - I'd take the revolver if I had my druthers.</p><p></p><p>**Please note that in my understanding, nothing is gonna stop an alligator if you don't know precisely where their little brain is located inside their head. They can keep operating like a chicken with no head until you shut out the lights with a brain shot - this is what I read anyhow. Obviously, other wild animals can continue functioning and attacking even with mortal wounds, but my understanding is that with alligators, it's even more so like this. And there's very few, small and hard to reach vital areas on them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow, post: 1377842, member: 7123"] To my way of thinking.... In brown bear country, 4" 5-shot revolver in .45 Colt, .44 mag, .454 casull, or .480 Ruger (solely as a backup for the rifle in your hands, and/or OC spray). My preference would be .45 Colt with ammo in a stout "+P" config such as Buffalo Bore offerings. Shootable (reasonable recovery time), yet very powerful and penetrative. In fact, as far as what Iken said, well just look at the #1 item in my want to buy list from my sig line link to see whether I agree or not. Dang, now that I look at it, you really stole my thunder, Iken. Hey, great minds think alike... :) In non-brown-bear-country, [I]SAME [/I].... [I]OR[/I], a semi-auto 10mm[I] .... OR[/I], lightweight 4" .357 Mag revolver. So, for the sake of lightness, that means maybe a[B] S&W Mountain Gun [/B]in .45 colt or .44 mag is about ideal, and as much as I dislike Glocks for a variety of reasons, something like a [B]compact 10mm Glock [/B]is just about ideal for defense against feral dogs, feral pigs, mountain lions, wolves, and humans (crazy violent "woods entrepeneurs" of meth labs or pot fields) - and even black bears and alligators.** Light to carry a long ways. This is the ONLY reason I can think of to actually own a Glock. That's theory...but in practice, the lighter the better if you're gonna carry it a lot. So whatever you'll actually carry, in whatever chambering that that's in. I've come to carry my 10mm Witness Steel or Taurus 24/7 OSS-DS in .45 acp in the woods if I think there may be trouble - mostly the Taurus because it's lighter. See, practice trumps theory when you actually have to pack it a ways. I need to look into whether the 24/7 longslide can handle .45 super with a stiffer recoil spring - I have some super brass. Then, if so, work up some loads and dedicate this to woods carry. It's light and 12 rounds of .45 super 230s is nothing to sneeze at - A hardcast 230 going over 1,000 from a super load would penetrate even the largest wild boar's gristle plate, even with a nice large destructive meplat. Could be a nice temp solution until I get my Redhawk. :) One thing to keep in mind is that with feral dogs and/or wolves, since they normally attack in packs, quantity of rounds (like a 10mm 2-stack semi-auto) can be more important than the power of each round (like a 5-shot revolver). Ditto for violent human predators. But for a bear, mountain lion, or feral pig - single attacker - I'd take the revolver if I had my druthers. **Please note that in my understanding, nothing is gonna stop an alligator if you don't know precisely where their little brain is located inside their head. They can keep operating like a chicken with no head until you shut out the lights with a brain shot - this is what I read anyhow. Obviously, other wild animals can continue functioning and attacking even with mortal wounds, but my understanding is that with alligators, it's even more so like this. And there's very few, small and hard to reach vital areas on them. [/QUOTE]
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