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<blockquote data-quote="Koshinn" data-source="post: 1644178" data-attributes="member: 18314"><p>Some things I noticed in the show:</p><p></p><p>Magpul/3gun thumb-over-bore support hand grip on an AR-15</p><p></p><p>A typo when they showed the M4, they wrote "M41A". The M41A is the pulse rifle from Aliens. I'm pretty sure they meant "M4A1," but since they were talking about semi-auto rifles, they should have wrote AR-15. Although AR-15 is probably copyrighted by Colt or Armalite.</p><p></p><p>The 9mm ammo only at police or mil locations as noted above. WTF? I get all my 9mm at Walmart. Any gun store or range will have .223/5.56, 9mm, 22LR, and maybe 12ga.</p><p></p><p>I think a suppressed 22LR is the best; since shot placement matters and a 22LR will go through the head of a zombie, I think the quietest and lightest round is the best. Since you can carry 1000+ rds of 22LR without any problems at all, it's probably the ideal round.</p><p></p><p>As they noted; if you're prepared for zombies, you're prepared for anything. Zombies are a fun excuse to prepare for natural disasters and civil unrest. But also as they noted, if there's even a 0.0001% chance of it happening, it's probably worth considering because it means the end of civilization.</p><p></p><p>Also, a lot of Max Brooks' comments were repeated from another documentary on zombies he was a part of. I just saw it on Netflix like 2 days ago and one of his comments was almost word-for-word the same, I think it was the samurai swords are for samurai comment. But in any case, Max Brooks is awesome.</p><p></p><p>I liked watching the gun expert on "how to kill a zombie," was that your friend J.L. Bourne? He had very precise and deliberate movements that showed many countless hours of practice.</p><p></p><p>I didn't think doing a take down on a zombie was a good idea unless absolutely necessary (no weapons, no maneuver room, no other exits, no friends). They mentioned several times that a single zombie is not a threat; they had a guy eating a donut or something and just walk around a zombie, which made me laugh. The real threat is a bunch of zombies, so going for a take down makes you vulnerable to all the others. There was this youtube video series a while back on how to survive a zombie apocalypse where they said to defeat a single zombie, rip off its arm and beat it to death with it. Was very tongue in cheek, but the idea was that a single zombie is not much of a threat. Unless we're talking about the "mutant" zombies from Resident Evil / Left 4 Dead / We're Alive, running zombies which may just overpower you, or smart zombies like in many shows. But a single Romero zombie is a joke.</p><p></p><p>I really liked how they mentioned that to survive the post-apocalyptic world, you may have to think like an insurgent. Breaking and entering, stealing, and other things are a necessary evil for survival. That and bugging in are probably the two best pieces of advice. Oh also that the rambos will probably die first. It's more like Survivor Man and less like Mad Max. But without guns, might will make right, and those without firepower (or without protection from other people with firepower) will be prey to other humans, which is another good point they made that a lot of bad zombie fiction just doesn't get; the real threat is the environment and other people, zombies are just in the background. In the classic fiction archetypes, zombies are more of a "man vs nature" type of story.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Koshinn, post: 1644178, member: 18314"] Some things I noticed in the show: Magpul/3gun thumb-over-bore support hand grip on an AR-15 A typo when they showed the M4, they wrote "M41A". The M41A is the pulse rifle from Aliens. I'm pretty sure they meant "M4A1," but since they were talking about semi-auto rifles, they should have wrote AR-15. Although AR-15 is probably copyrighted by Colt or Armalite. The 9mm ammo only at police or mil locations as noted above. WTF? I get all my 9mm at Walmart. Any gun store or range will have .223/5.56, 9mm, 22LR, and maybe 12ga. I think a suppressed 22LR is the best; since shot placement matters and a 22LR will go through the head of a zombie, I think the quietest and lightest round is the best. Since you can carry 1000+ rds of 22LR without any problems at all, it's probably the ideal round. As they noted; if you're prepared for zombies, you're prepared for anything. Zombies are a fun excuse to prepare for natural disasters and civil unrest. But also as they noted, if there's even a 0.0001% chance of it happening, it's probably worth considering because it means the end of civilization. Also, a lot of Max Brooks' comments were repeated from another documentary on zombies he was a part of. I just saw it on Netflix like 2 days ago and one of his comments was almost word-for-word the same, I think it was the samurai swords are for samurai comment. But in any case, Max Brooks is awesome. I liked watching the gun expert on "how to kill a zombie," was that your friend J.L. Bourne? He had very precise and deliberate movements that showed many countless hours of practice. I didn't think doing a take down on a zombie was a good idea unless absolutely necessary (no weapons, no maneuver room, no other exits, no friends). They mentioned several times that a single zombie is not a threat; they had a guy eating a donut or something and just walk around a zombie, which made me laugh. The real threat is a bunch of zombies, so going for a take down makes you vulnerable to all the others. There was this youtube video series a while back on how to survive a zombie apocalypse where they said to defeat a single zombie, rip off its arm and beat it to death with it. Was very tongue in cheek, but the idea was that a single zombie is not much of a threat. Unless we're talking about the "mutant" zombies from Resident Evil / Left 4 Dead / We're Alive, running zombies which may just overpower you, or smart zombies like in many shows. But a single Romero zombie is a joke. I really liked how they mentioned that to survive the post-apocalyptic world, you may have to think like an insurgent. Breaking and entering, stealing, and other things are a necessary evil for survival. That and bugging in are probably the two best pieces of advice. Oh also that the rambos will probably die first. It's more like Survivor Man and less like Mad Max. But without guns, might will make right, and those without firepower (or without protection from other people with firepower) will be prey to other humans, which is another good point they made that a lot of bad zombie fiction just doesn't get; the real threat is the environment and other people, zombies are just in the background. In the classic fiction archetypes, zombies are more of a "man vs nature" type of story. [/QUOTE]
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