Trump to halt 'massive' ObamaCare subsidies

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TerryMiller

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The wife didn't wasn't old enough for Medicare when we retired, so she had been without insurance for about 3 years until she turned 65 last month. When she looked into insurance through the exchanges, the best she could come up with was $3000 per year in premiums and a $10,000 deductible, thus forcing her to spend $13,000 before she would ever get a benefit from the insurance. Since she doesn't have that serious of health issues, she elected to go without and pay the penalties.

So, with young people choosing to do the same thing that my wife did, Obamacare was doomed to failure as soon as it became law.
 

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I'm glad P Trump did this. I'm so tired of paying for dead-beats to have their beer, booze, cigarettes and drugs too. At least now working people don't have to pay as much for health ins that these dead-beats don't deserve
 

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I dunno if I've ever known of anyone who has maxed out their medical deductible for the year but I managed to do it this year. I haven't paid for a pill, procedure or doctor's visit for the last 60 days or so, and I won't until January 1, 2018


I don't recommend it as a way of life but if you need to get some things done try and fall apart somewhere in between Jan 1 and Dec 31 of any given year. Lol
 

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I dunno if I've ever known of anyone who has maxed out their medical deductible for the year but I managed to do it this year. I haven't paid for a pill, procedure or doctor's visit for the last 60 days or so, and I won't until January 1, 2018


I don't recommend it as a way of life but if you need to get some things done try and fall apart somewhere in between Jan 1 and Dec 31 of any given year. Lol
Better take advantage of the met deductible! Need any tests or screenings, this is the time to do it.
 

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I don't think pre existing conditions are a matter of lifestyle choice. Infact, many of them were genetic.

Sure it is. Diet and smoking could post all sorts of health related problems that could be deemed as "pre-existing."

I know, but I inferred that you were saying that the affordable Healthcare act somehow subsidizes poor lifestyle choices. My point is that not everyone chooses to be in poor health.



I think it depends. If you yourself had a pre existing condition, it's better than what we had before. If you had no employee health insurance, it's better than what we had before.

Who foots the bill when an individual doesn't have health insurance? You and me, the American taxpayer at a premium markup.

How old are you again? Please.... tell me what it was like when you paid premiums BEFORE Obamacare and what it's like to pay them now. Please tell me how the average family of four in Oklahoma can afford the average of ~$1200-1500 a month and a family deductible of $12,000. Tell me about all those people that go kicked off ancillary group plans due to Obamacare? and how much better it is now that they have to go out in their 50s and 60s and pay Obamacare premiums because employer plans have greatly contracted, if not imploded. Tell me about all the under 50 employer businesses that can afford Obamacare insurance plans now, because their old ones imploded due to the law.
 

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Sure it is. Diet and smoking could post all sorts of health related problems that could be deemed as "pre-existing."



How old are you again? Please.... tell me what it was like when you paid premiums BEFORE Obamacare and what it's like to pay them now. Please tell me how the average family of four in Oklahoma can afford the average of ~$1200-1500 a month and a family deductible of $12,000. Tell me about all those people that go kicked off ancillary group plans due to Obamacare? and how much better it is now that they have to go out in their 50s and 60s and pay Obamacare premiums because employer plans have greatly contracted, if not imploded. Tell me about all the under 50 employer businesses that can afford Obamacare insurance plans now, because their old ones imploded due to the law.

I appreciate your viewpoint, but perhaps another thread might be appropriate. I am guilty of this,but I think it might be slightly off topic.
 

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At least now working people don't have to pay as much for health ins that these dead-beats don't deserve
While I share your sentiment, healthcare costs aren't going to drop, no matter what they do. When was the last time Any service you pay for on a monthly basis went down signifigantly? You might save a buck or two, here or there when your home insurance has some new fire-proof tiles or you kick Jr. off your auto insurance.

But they Never will cut rates by 50-75% back to what we were paying pre 2010. The price never goes down, even when high rates aren't justified.

Bought any $.99 cent 22 shells lately? I don't imagine .22LR manufacturing costs have gone up 250% in the last decade, yet here we are. We'll never see .99 cent ammo again.
 

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I appreciate your viewpoint, but perhaps another thread might be appropriate. I am guilty of this,but I think it might be slightly off topic.

Obamacare and it's rates is definitely within the confines of the subject. No need to answer, my comment was mostly rhetorical. I know you're young and I'm pretty sure that you have no experience in what you're speaking of. In which I'd be surprised if you paid your own premiums currently.
 

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