I need some advice.
My father and I have acquired rights to hunt land around the Calumet area. The land is not tribal land, but is tribal trust. There is only one owner (rare, I know), and we have his exclusive permission to hunt the land. The person leasing the land is aware that we have permission, and we have expressed to him that the only person allowed to hunt or grant permission to hunt is the land owner (this is also a pretty basic part of the least concerning tribal trust land).
This past fall, instead of hunting the land, my father and I continued to hunt land we usually hunt up by Geary, but on the way out, we "scouted" this land around Calumet both before and after our runs. We noticed, one evening, that the land at Calumet was being hunted. The guy leasing the land states that he has not hunted this area in a couple years (which when he did, it was illegal, but that's neither here not there).
I looked up the GW for the area, but I guess the most recent guy passed away and the area is currently without a GW. Locals we know said to contact county level, and they seemed disinterested.
Father and I want to start working this land... setting up a blind et al. I'm no chicken, but I also don't really like confrontation. Nor do I want to be "that guy" that call BIA police.
We think, with about 95% certainty that the people hunting this land is by permission of the person leasing. I know this seems like *****-footing around, but I just want to be able to hunt the land I have rights to without worrying about someone getting pissy about it because they don't understand the law. We (dad and I) are also pretty lax in "sharing the land" and don't really mind other people hunting there as long as they realize we are the defacto "caretakers" of the wildlife (for what it's worth, we are pretty much that as the landowner has basically said this is for our family to treat as our own when it comes to hunting... my dad took care of the landowner when it came to protecting his rights to the land etc).
Hope you can read into what I am asking in advice... just want to hunt it peacefully without the stress of confrontation. Damn shame anyone has to deal with stuff like that, but I know it happens... we normally hunt our own land in western oklahoma and out of state, or friends land up north of Geary, so we sort of feel like the outsiders in the area if you can smell what I'm stepping in.
My father and I have acquired rights to hunt land around the Calumet area. The land is not tribal land, but is tribal trust. There is only one owner (rare, I know), and we have his exclusive permission to hunt the land. The person leasing the land is aware that we have permission, and we have expressed to him that the only person allowed to hunt or grant permission to hunt is the land owner (this is also a pretty basic part of the least concerning tribal trust land).
This past fall, instead of hunting the land, my father and I continued to hunt land we usually hunt up by Geary, but on the way out, we "scouted" this land around Calumet both before and after our runs. We noticed, one evening, that the land at Calumet was being hunted. The guy leasing the land states that he has not hunted this area in a couple years (which when he did, it was illegal, but that's neither here not there).
I looked up the GW for the area, but I guess the most recent guy passed away and the area is currently without a GW. Locals we know said to contact county level, and they seemed disinterested.
Father and I want to start working this land... setting up a blind et al. I'm no chicken, but I also don't really like confrontation. Nor do I want to be "that guy" that call BIA police.
We think, with about 95% certainty that the people hunting this land is by permission of the person leasing. I know this seems like *****-footing around, but I just want to be able to hunt the land I have rights to without worrying about someone getting pissy about it because they don't understand the law. We (dad and I) are also pretty lax in "sharing the land" and don't really mind other people hunting there as long as they realize we are the defacto "caretakers" of the wildlife (for what it's worth, we are pretty much that as the landowner has basically said this is for our family to treat as our own when it comes to hunting... my dad took care of the landowner when it came to protecting his rights to the land etc).
Hope you can read into what I am asking in advice... just want to hunt it peacefully without the stress of confrontation. Damn shame anyone has to deal with stuff like that, but I know it happens... we normally hunt our own land in western oklahoma and out of state, or friends land up north of Geary, so we sort of feel like the outsiders in the area if you can smell what I'm stepping in.
