This is wild . . .
That guy didn’t seem very intent on shooting, because he hesitated. It looked to me like he let himself be taken down.
My question is if you’re an armed church member, do you shoot the gunman in this situation or let him shoot first?
“I” would hesitate to shoot until after the guy discharged his gun first.
My question is if you’re an armed church member, do you shoot the gunman in this situation or let him shoot first?
“I” would hesitate to shoot until after the guy discharged his gun first.
I've been struggling with that too. In this case, nobody had to die, so that's great. But I would hate to hesitate when I could act, then an innocent DOES die.
I agree that this guy didn't look very intent, but I think it's tactically and probably legally sound to shoot.
I agree that this guy didn't look very intent, but I think it's tactically and probably legally sound to shoot.
Great question, retrieverman. Hell, I could argue/alibi/advise two different ways at least. Here in Oklahoma, the Cleet Armed Security Guard class (back in 1995), taught one of the legal use of deadly force was to prevent a violent felony. The instructor droned on about “reasonable suspicion” and how the courts would weigh “what would a reasonable person do?” Does bellowing out, in a commanding tone, “ Drop the weapon!”ever get results?
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Saw this on the news earlier today.
Pretty sure this is why some churches encourage folks to pack.
Pretty sure this is why some churches encourage folks to pack.
I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't wait for him to shoot first. Most people don't want it revealed to them that they are a sinner in need of the Savior. 
Our pastor carries all the time.
Many of the congregation as well.
Many of the congregation as well.
After rewatching the video a few times, this really looks staged.
